You're right, this unfortunately doesn't seem constructive. And yes, I did feel the need to defend myself because I felt like my ideas were not only misinterpre

You're right, this unfortunately doesn't seem constructive. And yes, I did feel the need to defend myself because I felt like my ideas were not only misinterpreted, but also given less merit because it was written by (what you assumed was) an "exclusively technical" person (even if you acknowledged that "sometimes" those types can provide well-reasoned input). You asked me to prove that some product designers view their users with contempt, and I said the only proof I can provide is that others in the comment threads seem to have encountered it. You're free to disagree if you haven't, others in the comment thread disagreed as well (though without alluding to whether I was technical or not, or making assumptions about whether I was familiar with certain products du jour). A simple "oh I've never encountered that". It's not like you provided proof that that sentiment _doesn't_ exist either. Anyway, peace to you brother. We're all in this tech thing together—product designers, software developers, exclusively technical people, exclusively non-technical people... we pour our hearts into our work, and I hope we can have respect for the people we build for. If you think we all already do, then maybe it's just good to remind ourselves every now and then.