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But ... that’s what tv evolved to even though payment was built in (cable, tv fee in the UK). Internet would likely have done the same.
by beagle3 6y ago
But ... that’s what tv evolved to even though payment was built in (cable, tv fee in the UK). Internet would likely have done the same.
- donatj 6y agoYup, you would pay for websites AND have ads. Given the opportunity to put ads on something, it will get ads on it. That’s just a fact of life. You’re just throwing money away otherwise.
- kmonsen 6y agoThat’s not really true. Netflix and HBO don’t have ads. It is possible, just very very hard to stay away from the ads temptation.
- MikusR 6y agoAt least Netflix has loads of ads. In the form of product placement.
- toyg 6y agoSo much this. It’s embarrassing to see otherwise quality-products forced to prostitute themselves to the god of ads. For example, I enjoy Brooklyn 99 like the next guy, but the way their writing bends towards lame product-placement every other episode is really jarring.
- beagle3 6y agoNetflix and HBO aren’t what I was referring to - I was referring to “real” over-the-air and cable television. Cable is paid for everywhere by channel/package. OTA is paid for in many places in the world through e.g. tv license in the Uk. Ads still all over. In contrast to op assuming built in payment would have had replaced ads.
- DenseComet 6y agoTV sets themselves have ads built in. TVs and other hardware was sold for years at profitable margins, and then some genius realized they could undercut competitors by putting ads in the interface and making money later. After that, it was just a race to the bottom.
- TeMPOraL 6y agoWhich is why I'm starting to believe there should be regulations preventing this. I have no idea how could they work while avoiding disastrous second-order effects, but what I want to see is for "ad-subsidized" business model to be legally impossible. Along with its cousin, "razor and blades" model. This is on the grounds that these models are customer-hostile, and make it impossible for less exploitative businesses to compete.
- donatj 6y agoI think Kindle has proven that people are fine with paying less for something ad supported. I think the better option is just more businesses giving zealots the option to pay more for the same thing without ads.
- TeMPOraL 6y agoI don't know how it worked out on the US market. It worked out well on Polish market, because US Kindle ads were completely irrelevant and thus ignored as visual noise. And also I recall there was a trick to get rid of them and keep the cheaper Kindle.
- Symmetry 6y agoCable fees were only added much later, long after broadcast tv followed broadcast radio as paid for by ads.
- beagle3 6y agoWas there ever a time you could get 57 channels without paying a cable fee?