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Such as? Picking some features I like entirely at random: libdispatch, Core Data, comprehensive accessibility support, SpriteKit, Core Video, ARKit… basically,

Such as? Picking some features I like entirely at random: libdispatch, Core Data, comprehensive accessibility support, SpriteKit, Core Video, ARKit… basically, there are lot of powerful and reasonably consistent APIs (with good performance) that really make a bunch of development much more tractable. Some of these can be replicated on the web platform; others can't. In any case, I'd assume those miles are only gained on iOS where Apple has gimped the newer web APIs. I'm sure you appreciate why that kind of attitude is a bit silly and serves to demonstrate the exact effect I was initially talking about.

anoncareer0212 6y ago
There's no way you think Apple is miles ahead on async programming and ORMs, the iOS community has been clamoring for replacements for both for years and there's _plenty_ of web libraries for both. The rest looks like it's focused on graphics/stuff you wouldn't do on the web anyway - yes, the fact it's impossible on the web _means by definition Apple is miles ahead_, but claiming Apple is overall miles ahead on dev experience because of AR and video bitstream manipulation APIs is a bit blinkered, given very few developers get to use those APIs.
- rabenfrass 6y ago
  We’d like a swift version of Core Data (a graph of objects), not a ORM. For async programming we have GCD and reactive libraries, async await is on master already, a design document is expected this month.
wayneftw 6y ago
> Picking some features I like entirely at random: Yada1, Yada2, Yada3... Those are not features. Those are names of developer libraries. What do you think they can do that's so much better? > I'm sure you appreciate why that kind of attitude is a bit silly... Apple clearly nerfs the web on iOS and there's nothing silly about acknowledging that. It's actually kinda silly pretending that they don't xD > and serves to demonstrate the exact effect I was initially talking about. Hmm, that's not very clear at all. You said "platform-specific developers can often keep themselves far too isolated", but the web isn't "platform-specific" it's 100% cross-platform and that's why Apple hates it.

anoncareer0212 6y ago

There's no way you think Apple is miles ahead on async programming and ORMs, the iOS community has been clamoring for replacements for both for years and there's _plenty_ of web libraries for both. The rest looks like it's focused on graphics/stuff you wouldn't do on the web anyway - yes, the fact it's impossible on the web _means by definition Apple is miles ahead_, but claiming Apple is overall miles ahead on dev experience because of AR and video bitstream manipulation APIs is a bit blinkered, given very few developers get to use those APIs.

rabenfrass 6y ago
We’d like a swift version of Core Data (a graph of objects), not a ORM. For async programming we have GCD and reactive libraries, async await is on master already, a design document is expected this month.

wayneftw 6y ago

> Picking some features I like entirely at random: Yada1, Yada2, Yada3... Those are not features. Those are names of developer libraries. What do you think they can do that's so much better? > I'm sure you appreciate why that kind of attitude is a bit silly... Apple clearly nerfs the web on iOS and there's nothing silly about acknowledging that. It's actually kinda silly pretending that they don't xD > and serves to demonstrate the exact effect I was initially talking about. Hmm, that's not very clear at all. You said "platform-specific developers can often keep themselves far too isolated", but the web isn't "platform-specific" it's 100% cross-platform and that's why Apple hates it.