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This has been covered again and again in other comments. Thermal power plants dump heat into oceans today. The data center is much more efficient than a counter
by AlanSE 6y ago
This has been covered again and again in other comments. Thermal power plants dump heat into oceans today. The data center is much more efficient than a counterpart on land.
Ocean life and coral reefs are in danger due to temperature rise as a part of climate change. Energy efficiency helps reduce that temperature rise.
- ramon 6y agoNo, actually there has been already many studies that there's no turning back on climate change. Even going all electric energy it's not going to do much for climate change, there's no turning back on this aspect at all.
- scrollaway 6y agoIt's not a binary switch.
- buzzerbetrayed 6y agoAfter reading GP's comment multiple times, I do not see any place where he mentioned turning back climate change. So whether or not your comment is true, it doesn't seem to contradict anything GP said. If we wanted to accelerate climate change, we could obviously do so (as proven in the last century). Meaning we have an impact on the acceleration of climate change. Meaning we can make decisions to make that acceleration slower, rather than faster.
- ramon 6y agohttps://climate.nasa.gov/ https://climate.nasa.gov/
- buzzerbetrayed 6y agoIs there something on there that contradicts what I said? I'm not going to scour the entire website to find whatever it is you're referring to when you could just tell me (except you probably can't because I'm guessing it doesn't exist.. hence your vagueness).
- ramon 6y agoWhat is your objetive here in this forum? Is it to pick a fight?
- hinkley 6y agoAnd when we make something much more efficient, we just end up making more of them.
- scrollaway 6y agoIf we make more of them, it's because there's a need for it. There isn't an "increased demand in datacenters" just because datacenters are more efficient. There's still the same demand, but it can now be met more efficiently. If the process was not as efficient, you would still attempt to meet the demand, except that you're producing more waste (waste heat especially in this case), over a longer period of time. Waste is waste, reducing it is never a negative.
- hinkley 6y agoNobody needs more data centers, except for people trying to build their empires. People need services and data centers are how they get them. If data centers are expensive then I invest in efficiency work because 3 FTEs are cheaper than 2 additional data centers. If the centers are cheaper I will just burn watts to solve my problem, and spend those employees on something else.
- scrollaway 6y agoYou're describing demand.
- hinkley 6y agoI’m describing logistics. And we were talking about whether we should, not whether we can. “Demand” can be a lot of things. Demand is not a justification.