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>The fact that people spend lots of time on social media just demonstrates that they derive something from it, not that it’s addictive or harmful. I think the

>The fact that people spend lots of time on social media just demonstrates that they derive something from it, not that it’s addictive or harmful. I think the point of the movie is to show that it is addictive and harmful and it is built that way intentionally. And it gets worse for younger generations. >Regardless, social media isn’t going to suddenly make me believe the moon landing was fake, so I don’t see it as being harmful. Maybe not the moon landing, but it can make you believe many other things with out you even noticing. We've seen examples of this already, there's nothing new here.

sunopener 6y ago
> but it can make you believe many other things with out you even noticing. Case and point. This is false. This is fiction. You believe what you want to believe, you choose to believe the lie that there is anything outside of you that can make you or another do this that or another. That there exist some such authority that can be responsible vs everybody standing up and taking their personal responsibility only to realize that their whole identity is based on more lies and that no one on this planet is in control, that control, safety, security, certainty are as illusory as saying farts stink. All narratives, all stories, all fiction, untruth, the truth cannot be spoken nor written. "Please! Write me out of the Story of the Cave of Plato!" Sorry there bud, You're the one that's gonna have to write yourself out of Plato's cave, out of Plato's Mind, then out your own, if you dare. > There's nothing new here. Nothing is not new. Nothing has been around for a very long time. Even before Time came around. You know the Time Being, The Implication Being, the Reason Being, the The State of Being, the Very Being, the Difference Being, the Latter Being, The World Being--They all sit around and laugh at you, they know they're knot RA-EL, yet 'ere thy arrrr(prepping for talk like a pirate day soon, excuse me), "making" them as real as social media can make you believe many other things without you even noticing. ;)
renewiltord 6y ago
The truth is that platforms like HN are the worst offenders. While consumption-oriented platforms are clearly consumption-oriented, the addiction from text-based platforms like HN is far more insidious. People think they're making a difference when they come here, but nothing is happening. They get the dopamine hit of some karma, and replies, but they're in their trench and the other guy is in the other trench and the battle lines aren't moving. HN is a pretty clever tool. It honeypots entrepreneurs who can't develop so they don't compete with the guys who can develop. The former category, instead of competing¹, talks here about how they can't finish their side projects and how they can't get motivation to work, and other unrelated stuff that is just addictive entrepreneur or tech porn. This streamlines the experience for doers, who avoid the manipulative trap that is HN, and are busy building product. ¹ Competition is bad. cf. Zero to One
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sunopener 6y ago

> but it can make you believe many other things with out you even noticing. Case and point. This is false. This is fiction. You believe what you want to believe, you choose to believe the lie that there is anything outside of you that can make you or another do this that or another. That there exist some such authority that can be responsible vs everybody standing up and taking their personal responsibility only to realize that their whole identity is based on more lies and that no one on this planet is in control, that control, safety, security, certainty are as illusory as saying farts stink. All narratives, all stories, all fiction, untruth, the truth cannot be spoken nor written. "Please! Write me out of the Story of the Cave of Plato!" Sorry there bud, You're the one that's gonna have to write yourself out of Plato's cave, out of Plato's Mind, then out your own, if you dare. > There's nothing new here. Nothing is not new. Nothing has been around for a very long time. Even before Time came around. You know the Time Being, The Implication Being, the Reason Being, the The State of Being, the Very Being, the Difference Being, the Latter Being, The World Being--They all sit around and laugh at you, they know they're knot RA-EL, yet 'ere thy arrrr(prepping for talk like a pirate day soon, excuse me), "making" them as real as social media can make you believe many other things without you even noticing. ;)

renewiltord 6y ago

The truth is that platforms like HN are the worst offenders. While consumption-oriented platforms are clearly consumption-oriented, the addiction from text-based platforms like HN is far more insidious. People think they're making a difference when they come here, but nothing is happening. They get the dopamine hit of some karma, and replies, but they're in their trench and the other guy is in the other trench and the battle lines aren't moving. HN is a pretty clever tool. It honeypots entrepreneurs who can't develop so they don't compete with the guys who can develop. The former category, instead of competing¹, talks here about how they can't finish their side projects and how they can't get motivation to work, and other unrelated stuff that is just addictive entrepreneur or tech porn. This streamlines the experience for doers, who avoid the manipulative trap that is HN, and are busy building product. ¹ Competition is bad. cf. Zero to One

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