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> Android devices are more open than Apple devices, have more capabilities and sucks on privacy much more. Also about 'more open' - sounds like 'more good' or

> Android devices are more open than Apple devices, have more capabilities and sucks on privacy much more. Also about 'more open' - sounds like 'more good' or 'more pregnant'. So, here's two ways only - open or closed. "Android is open source" - only the marketing slogan. You can run open source Android only in VM.

thesuperbigfrog 6y ago
>> and sucks on privacy much more. That depends on what vendor, device, and Android distribution you choose. >> Also about 'more open' - sounds like 'more good' or 'more pregnant'. "More open" meaning apps can be side-loaded on Android devices without needing permission from anyone. "More open" meaning you have a choice of vendors. "More open" meaning there are many marketplaces where you can find or purchase apps. "More open" because more choices are available. >> So, here's two ways only - open or closed. The Android ecosystem has a spectrum of openness depending what vendor, device, Android distribution, and app marketplace(s) you choose. Some vendors lock their devices down more than others. >> "Android is open source" - only the marketing slogan. You can run open source Android only in VM. Really? There are several privacy-focused, open source Android distributions that actually run on devices: https://lineageos.org/ https://lineageos.org/ https://replicant.us/ https://replicant.us/ https://e.foundation/ https://e.foundation/ https://grapheneos.org/ https://grapheneos.org/
- fsflover 6y ago
  There is no smartphone which can run Android without binary blobs. Exceptions: https://tehnoetic.com/mobile-devices https://tehnoetic.com/mobile-devices, but many essential things just don't work.
- paulcarroty 6y ago
  99.9% of android camera, modem, GPS, wifi drivers are closed. "several privacy-focused, open source Android distributions" also includes proprietary drivers, in most cases they have no choice.

thesuperbigfrog 6y ago

>> and sucks on privacy much more. That depends on what vendor, device, and Android distribution you choose. >> Also about 'more open' - sounds like 'more good' or 'more pregnant'. "More open" meaning apps can be side-loaded on Android devices without needing permission from anyone. "More open" meaning you have a choice of vendors. "More open" meaning there are many marketplaces where you can find or purchase apps. "More open" because more choices are available. >> So, here's two ways only - open or closed. The Android ecosystem has a spectrum of openness depending what vendor, device, Android distribution, and app marketplace(s) you choose. Some vendors lock their devices down more than others. >> "Android is open source" - only the marketing slogan. You can run open source Android only in VM. Really? There are several privacy-focused, open source Android distributions that actually run on devices: https://lineageos.org/ https://lineageos.org/ https://replicant.us/ https://replicant.us/ https://e.foundation/ https://e.foundation/ https://grapheneos.org/ https://grapheneos.org/

fsflover 6y ago
There is no smartphone which can run Android without binary blobs. Exceptions: https://tehnoetic.com/mobile-devices https://tehnoetic.com/mobile-devices, but many essential things just don't work.
paulcarroty 6y ago
99.9% of android camera, modem, GPS, wifi drivers are closed. "several privacy-focused, open source Android distributions" also includes proprietary drivers, in most cases they have no choice.