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So Huawei is a premium member of RISC-V International[1], and probably one of the drivers of their move to Switzerland. They repeatedly threatened to move to RI

So Huawei is a premium member of RISC-V International[1], and probably one of the drivers of their move to Switzerland. They repeatedly threatened to move to RISC-V [2], but so far, their semiconductor subsidiary always licensed from ARM.[3] I personally expect some announcement to be made late this year or early 2021. Huawei in general waits very long before it announces products or services, perk of not being a publicly traded company. Just as an interesting example, they seem to be developing a programming language and want to release it early next year, but no public announcement of any kind has been made yet. [4] [1] https://riscv.org/membership/members/ https://riscv.org/membership/members/ [2] http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201908/23/WS5d5fe368a310cf3e355679b1.html http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201908/23/WS5d5fe368a310cf3e3... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiSilicon#Smartphone_application_processors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiSilicon#Smartphone_applicati... [4] https://cntechpost.com/2020/09/13/huawei-rumored-to-be-developing-its-own-programming-language-char/ https://cntechpost.com/2020/09/13/huawei-rumored-to-be-devel...

throwaway4good 6y ago
Ok. So they seem to think that RISC-V is safe from US sanctions.
- Aperocky 6y ago
  Open source does that for you. You can't sanction public knowledge. The mere idea of such should be ridiculed.
  - dv_dt 6y ago
    Not that the US gov't hasn't tried on multiple occasions...
  - blackrock 6y ago
    But open source still requires a license. And the company owning the license might be based in the USA. Is it possible the USA government can say that this is open source and free for all to use, except for people in China. For example, if Red Hat Fedora is open sourced, but Red Hat is a USA company. Then they will still be under USA jurisdiction. Given all the lies and bullshit coming out of the current administration, I can actually see them doing this.
    - meroes 6y ago
      I think the difference is that China would just ignore it and still have all the access to the technology since it's open source already.
    - FullyFunctional 6y ago
      First, the RISC-V Consortium is an organization (now) based in Switzerland. Second, there is literally nothing anyone can do to stop you from making a RISC-V core, short of calling it "RISC-V". For that, you have to pass a few tests, but all trivial stuff for a serious contender. On a related note, I don't think it's an accident that Apple almost completely avoids talking about "Arm" but instead calls it "Apple Silicon".
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throwaway4good 6y ago

Ok. So they seem to think that RISC-V is safe from US sanctions.

Aperocky 6y ago
Open source does that for you. You can't sanction public knowledge. The mere idea of such should be ridiculed.
- dv_dt 6y ago
  Not that the US gov't hasn't tried on multiple occasions...
- blackrock 6y ago
  But open source still requires a license. And the company owning the license might be based in the USA. Is it possible the USA government can say that this is open source and free for all to use, except for people in China. For example, if Red Hat Fedora is open sourced, but Red Hat is a USA company. Then they will still be under USA jurisdiction. Given all the lies and bullshit coming out of the current administration, I can actually see them doing this.
  - meroes 6y ago
    I think the difference is that China would just ignore it and still have all the access to the technology since it's open source already.
  - FullyFunctional 6y ago
    First, the RISC-V Consortium is an organization (now) based in Switzerland. Second, there is literally nothing anyone can do to stop you from making a RISC-V core, short of calling it "RISC-V". For that, you have to pass a few tests, but all trivial stuff for a serious contender. On a related note, I don't think it's an accident that Apple almost completely avoids talking about "Arm" but instead calls it "Apple Silicon".

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