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>If we're not leasing a phone But that, unfortunately seems to be the thinking behind most companies these days...that consumers don't own their phones, among
by grawprog 6y ago
>If we're not leasing a phone
But that, unfortunately seems to be the thinking behind most companies these days...that consumers don't own their phones, among other things, in fact most manufacturers seem to want to get onto thr bandwagon, they lease right to use them.
I'm fully in agreement with you though. Phones and most end consumer devices should not be treated as leased devices.
I may need to pay for a service to fully use said device, mobile data, wifi, etc. But those services should not be locked into one provider and should be seperate from the manufacturers.
Limits on repairs and modification should be few and a void warranty should be the steepest penalty. Modifying or repairing a device should not be grounds to have that device bricked at the whims of a manufacturer.
- dwighttk 6y agoWhat manufacturer leases a phone to an individual? I know some carriers do this.
- NotSammyHagar 6y agoI think part of the idea of "not owning your device" is that apple and Google have controlled gardens, apple way more than android, but still. They control the system software.
- varispeed 6y agoApple also controls the hardware - for example they prevent vendors from selling some spare parts to 3rd parties. For example if a USB charging chip dies, you cannot replace it yourself, because you can't buy the part.
- quicklime 6y ago> Phones and most end consumer devices should not be treated as leased devices. I lease my home. Even though I don’t own it, I still have an expectation of privacy! The law protects me from having my landlord just decide to walk in whenever they want, for example. Privacy is something everyone should have, even on leased devices. People have things like private conversations and banking credentials on their phones.
- aksjfnkajsnd 6y ago> The law protects me from having my landlord just decide to walk in whenever they want, for example. Depends on the state
- bigtechdataeng 6y agoDoes it? I thought it was pretty much a given that landlords had to provide 24 hours written notice, excepting emergency.
- dkdk8283 6y agoHow do you define what constitutes an emergency?
- mushbino 6y agoWhat you can prove or disprove in court.
- aksjfnkajsnd 6y agoYes, it does. Look it up.
- varispeed 6y agoSome companies (like Apple) make it impossible to repair your own device even if you have tools and skills because they ask vendors to not sell spare parts to third parties. For example if a charging IC dies you have an option to either send it to Apple and pay significant mark up for the 10 minute repair or throw away the device. You should be able to buy such chip and replace it without company involvement. I hope that this practice will be illegal in the future.