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California has a monopoly on the entire mild-weathered west coast of the United States. Its government is permitted to be less effective and less efficient beca

by beaner 6y ago

California has a monopoly on the entire mild-weathered west coast of the United States. Its government is permitted to be less effective and less efficient because people are willing to pay extra for its natural geography.

shuckles 6y ago
Capital being more abundant than mild weathered land is bullish for the state, no?
- beaner 6y ago
  I'm not sure what you mean. I think so, but beside the point. I was replying to the idea that California government "must be doing something right," which is untrue.
  - shuckles 6y ago
    California’s government is overly optimized to protect the environment in the short term, which, per this point, may be a good trade.
    - beaner 6y ago
      The point I was originally replying to was not about the environment, it was about the size of the economy. This isn't related.
jayd16 6y ago
So what you're saying is California can continue its current policies and be just fine?
- almost_usual 6y ago
  Yeah, this smoke is great.
  - jayd16 6y ago
    You're right. We should ban gender reveals.
    - deleted 6y ago
      [deleted]
    - almost_usual 6y ago
      Let’s keep letting our forest take care of itself naturally, let’s also build there, seems to be working great. I’m sure more solar panels and Tesla’s will fix the problem. Larry Ellison seems to be doing alright donating his Tesla funds to Trump while pushing electric vehicle usage and the state burns. Dumb hypocrisy. I’m sick of these false narratives and bullshit causes. If we’re going to tackle problems in this state we need to actually do it. Not pretend we did and glorify the attempt then brag to others about how great we are. What a joke.
  - CalChris 6y ago
    Wildfires in Siberia have burned down an area larger than Greece https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-sibera-russia-burned-area-larger-than-greece-heat-wave/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-sibera-russia-burned-...
- beaner 6y ago
  It depends on what you mean by "just fine." If you mean "maintain its population," then maybe yes. But I'd say that's exceptionally low criteria for "just fine." It's also a phrasing that dismisses the opportunity cost of having California's efficiency be raised to that of other states, and so seems disingenuous. But even now, California's population is stagnant [0], and most likely currently shrinking. So, no, it likely cannot continue and be just fine. [0] https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/population-shrinks-in-california-still-most-populous-state/2355776/ https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/population-shrinks-in-cal...
  - jayd16 6y ago
    So the success is based on population? What does that have to do with the natural resources/geography mentioned in the previous comment?
    - beaner 6y ago
      I think my comment was pretty clear. You did not define what you meant by California being "just fine," so I said: > It depends on what you mean by "just fine." If you mean "maintain its population," If you mean something else, you should say what you mean.
- koheripbal 6y ago
  On the backs of other Western states. It depends on whether you consider ethical behavior important. States bordering just east of California should be taxing California for their monopolistic taxation of economic activity between them and Pacific trade.
primrose 6y ago
For now

by beaner 6y ago

shuckles 6y ago

Capital being more abundant than mild weathered land is bullish for the state, no?

beaner 6y ago
I'm not sure what you mean. I think so, but beside the point. I was replying to the idea that California government "must be doing something right," which is untrue.
- shuckles 6y ago
  California’s government is overly optimized to protect the environment in the short term, which, per this point, may be a good trade.
  - beaner 6y ago
    The point I was originally replying to was not about the environment, it was about the size of the economy. This isn't related.

jayd16 6y ago

So what you're saying is California can continue its current policies and be just fine?

almost_usual 6y ago
Yeah, this smoke is great.
- jayd16 6y ago
  You're right. We should ban gender reveals.
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
  - almost_usual 6y ago
    Let’s keep letting our forest take care of itself naturally, let’s also build there, seems to be working great. I’m sure more solar panels and Tesla’s will fix the problem. Larry Ellison seems to be doing alright donating his Tesla funds to Trump while pushing electric vehicle usage and the state burns. Dumb hypocrisy. I’m sick of these false narratives and bullshit causes. If we’re going to tackle problems in this state we need to actually do it. Not pretend we did and glorify the attempt then brag to others about how great we are. What a joke.
- CalChris 6y ago
  Wildfires in Siberia have burned down an area larger than Greece https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-sibera-russia-burned-area-larger-than-greece-heat-wave/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-sibera-russia-burned-...
beaner 6y ago
It depends on what you mean by "just fine." If you mean "maintain its population," then maybe yes. But I'd say that's exceptionally low criteria for "just fine." It's also a phrasing that dismisses the opportunity cost of having California's efficiency be raised to that of other states, and so seems disingenuous. But even now, California's population is stagnant [0], and most likely currently shrinking. So, no, it likely cannot continue and be just fine. [0] https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/population-shrinks-in-california-still-most-populous-state/2355776/ https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/population-shrinks-in-cal...
- jayd16 6y ago
  So the success is based on population? What does that have to do with the natural resources/geography mentioned in the previous comment?
  - beaner 6y ago
    I think my comment was pretty clear. You did not define what you meant by California being "just fine," so I said: > It depends on what you mean by "just fine." If you mean "maintain its population," If you mean something else, you should say what you mean.
koheripbal 6y ago
On the backs of other Western states. It depends on whether you consider ethical behavior important. States bordering just east of California should be taxing California for their monopolistic taxation of economic activity between them and Pacific trade.

primrose 6y ago

For now