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There are good points on both sides; as a Linux user, I feel the effects of their proprietary drivers and uncooperative approach, while I can also appreciate th

There are good points on both sides; as a Linux user, I feel the effects of their proprietary drivers and uncooperative approach, while I can also appreciate that they've managed to work with the Gnome and KDE project to have some support under Wayland, and the contributions they've made to the machine learning communities. Ad a whole, I do think that the former outweighs the latter, and loath the acquisition, but do think that the resources they're packing will bring ARM to new heights for the majority users.

endgame 6y ago
https://drewdevault.com/2017/10/26/Fuck-you-nvidia.html https://drewdevault.com/2017/10/26/Fuck-you-nvidia.html You mean this Weyland "support"?
- selectodude 6y ago
  "October 26, 2017" I'm not coming out and saying it's gotten significantly better, but that is a three year old article and Nvidia-wayland does work on KDE and Gnome.
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - timidger 6y ago
    That's because they implemented egl streams, nothing has changed majorly since then. There's been a lot of talk, but no action towards unification. The ball is entirely in Nvidia's court and they continue to work together on this.
- CountSessine 6y ago
  The funny thing about GBM vs EGLStreams, though, based on everything I’ve read online, is that there’s broad agreement that EGLStreams is the technically superior approach - and that the reason it’s been rejected by the Linux graphics devs is GBM, while inferior, has broad hardware vendor support. Apparently very few GPU vendors outside the big 3 had decent EGl implementations.
  - ddevault 6y ago
    That's not true. EGLStreams would be better suited to Nvidia's proprietary driver design, but it's technically inferior. This is the "broad agreement". No one but Nvidia wants EGLStreams, or we would have implemented it in other drivers.
    - CountSessine 6y ago
      You know I did a bit more reading about this, and it sounds like you’re right. There’s a great discussion about it here: https://mesa-dev.freedesktop.narkive.com/qq4iQ7RR/egl-streams-trying-to-gain-some-knowledge https://mesa-dev.freedesktop.narkive.com/qq4iQ7RR/egl-stream...

endgame 6y ago

https://drewdevault.com/2017/10/26/Fuck-you-nvidia.html https://drewdevault.com/2017/10/26/Fuck-you-nvidia.html You mean this Weyland "support"?

selectodude 6y ago
"October 26, 2017" I'm not coming out and saying it's gotten significantly better, but that is a three year old article and Nvidia-wayland does work on KDE and Gnome.
- deleted 6y ago
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- timidger 6y ago
  That's because they implemented egl streams, nothing has changed majorly since then. There's been a lot of talk, but no action towards unification. The ball is entirely in Nvidia's court and they continue to work together on this.
CountSessine 6y ago
The funny thing about GBM vs EGLStreams, though, based on everything I’ve read online, is that there’s broad agreement that EGLStreams is the technically superior approach - and that the reason it’s been rejected by the Linux graphics devs is GBM, while inferior, has broad hardware vendor support. Apparently very few GPU vendors outside the big 3 had decent EGl implementations.
- ddevault 6y ago
  That's not true. EGLStreams would be better suited to Nvidia's proprietary driver design, but it's technically inferior. This is the "broad agreement". No one but Nvidia wants EGLStreams, or we would have implemented it in other drivers.
  - CountSessine 6y ago
    You know I did a bit more reading about this, and it sounds like you’re right. There’s a great discussion about it here: https://mesa-dev.freedesktop.narkive.com/qq4iQ7RR/egl-streams-trying-to-gain-some-knowledge https://mesa-dev.freedesktop.narkive.com/qq4iQ7RR/egl-stream...