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Oblique Strategies
- lwigo 6y agoI have the box of these received as a gift sitting on my desk!
- teej 6y agoMy oblique strategies deck is my most prized desk doodad. I don’t reach for it often but I never regret when I do.
- vmurthy 6y agoI've enjoyed Innovative Whackpack and the series [0]. While I can't say it has given me any "breakthroughs", it is a fun exercise to do when you are otherwise stressed out :) [0] https://www.amazon.com/Innovative-Whack-Pack-Roger-Oech/dp/157281442X https://www.amazon.com/Innovative-Whack-Pack-Roger-Oech/dp/1...
- tomasreimers 6y agoI do wonder to what degree these methods promote creativity just by breaking you out of your normal thought cycles (which may be stuck in a nonproductive spinloop)
- jacknews 6y agoIt's definitely nice to have the actual cards, though they're quite expensive. But you can get a feel for the idea online, eg https://www.joshharrison.net/oblique-strategies/ https://www.joshharrison.net/oblique-strategies/ This site used to have some really funky color combinations that were inspiring all on their won, but unfortunately it's a little bland now.
- billman 6y agoI had a hard time buying the cards at first. I think this was due to the fact that creativity is hard to put a value on. I ended up buying two packs (I gave one as a gift), and I can honestly say that I have used them hundreds of times. I think the price of the pack actually forces you to get your money's worth out of it. Being creative in your life is one of the best investments you can make.
- wenc 6y agoJust curious: can you recount a time when a card has broken you out of an idea deadlock in a real life situation? I can definitely see how this could work (I've used writing prompts in the past and they've helped). Just wondered if there were examples outside of the writing world.
- Hoasi 6y ago> Being creative in your life is one of the best investments you can make. True, creativity is hard to learn or teach, but it is something you can prepare yourself for and train.
- jeffchien 6y agoThe Omnibus podcast had a great episode about it: https://www.omnibusproject.com/194 https://www.omnibusproject.com/194
- teej 6y agoHere’s some photos of my personal deck, which I have owned for 10 years. https://imgur.com/a/vTNsN5b https://imgur.com/a/vTNsN5b
- KTallguy 6y agoI have my own deck too. I really enjoy displaying a new card every week on my desk. My friend and I even devised a little ritual when we draw cards. All hail the god of ambient, Brian Eno.
- BurritoAlPastor 6y agoA couple years ago, I reformatted these for use with the unix "fortune" utility, in case you need oblique strategies on the command line. (I sure do.) https://github.com/threemachines/obliqueMOTD https://github.com/threemachines/obliqueMOTD
- justinator 6y agoNice. I used to run a mailing list that would just send one every day.
- troughway 6y agoSemi off-topic, but I've always wondered if Autechre's Tri Repetae album was named after one of the oblique strategies. The title translates to "Try Repeating", I believe.
- LeoPanthera 6y agoTri Repetae is Latin for "three repeats".
- galaxyLogic 6y agoSeveral years ago I gave myself this rule: Whenever you have to stop because of a red traffic light, you must switch your thoughts and think exactly the opposite of what you were thinking when you were about to cross the street.
- kzrdude 6y agoWhat's your result with this idea?
- galaxyLogic 6y agoI believe it calms me down a bit. I'm often quite incensed about things. Trying to think the opposite allows me to see things from another, or somebody else's viewpoint. Also, I might get incensed by just the fact that I have to wait for traffic-lights to change! So having a mental task to perform at that time seems to help. It feels more like an opportunity then than obstacle. I don't do it much these days but now that I read about Eno's oblique strategies maybe I'll give this some more attention :-)
- kzrdude 6y agoHah, interesting. I'll try this, if I remember, but I don't think I have that kind of temperament that you have.
- pavlov 6y agoBrian Eno’s Twitter account posts one of these strategy cards every day: https://twitter.com/dark_shark/status/1305296263710011392?s=21 https://twitter.com/dark_shark/status/1305296263710011392?s=...
- pfarrell 6y agoI'll delete this post if my home server can't handle it, but I created a personal software design version of this ages back. Click/touch to deal a new answer. https://patf.net/obst https://patf.net/obst
- c3534l 6y agoIts a really cool idea and I think its helpful. However, I've unfortunately realized that I don't really need that kind of creativity in anything I do. I need insight and understanding, I need to actually do the things I want to do, and I need to research solutions, but very rarely do I actually need to be creative in the sense of coming up with completely new ideas to get past a creative block. It was kind of a sad realization.
- crazygringo 6y agoYes. Sadly, the kind of help one needs in creative fields is rarely the kind of help one needs in analytic fields. I've done a lot of programming, and also quite a bit of acting. The types of thinking "oblique strategies" suggest can be amazing for figuring out a new different way to act a scene -- an absolute goldmine. But they're of absolutely zero use in programming. Similarly, the kind of logical and analytical thinking that helps in programming... seems to be purely harmful in acting. It actually took me quite a long time to realize how fundamentally different the kind of thinking needed for creative vs. analytical tasks is. At least for me, there is almost zero useful transference. If anything, being good at one interferes with the other, until you learn to keep the skills separate.
- wenc 6y agoIn technical spaces, creative work seems to largely consist of combining ideas and seeing if the combination already exists and/or if it's likely to work in real life. In my experience, the few times I've the most creative ideas, I had them in the bathroom -- and usually after I've been turning over ideas (writing and rewriting in Google Docs) for days. (Writing helped with converging -- it's not as useful for diverging. Talking to others usually helps for the latter but it's hit or miss.) Oblique Strategies cards sound like they would be useful for certain artistic domains. When I was taking creative writing and storytelling classes, I had a lot of trouble generating story ideas. I used similar randomizer aids (as writing prompts) to see latent possibilities. There are similar tools for generating startup ideas but I wonder if anyone's ever executed on any of these: https://breue.com/good_startup_ideas https://breue.com/good_startup_ideas
- pjmorris 6y ago
- dhotson 6y agoI really liked this version "Oblique Strategies: Prompts for Programmers" especially for when you're stuck on something. https://kevinlawler.com/prompts https://kevinlawler.com/prompts
- resu_nimda 6y agoI always liked the scene featuring Oblique Strategies in Richard Linklater's Slacker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWBS0dTpWUM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWBS0dTpWUM
- lukeh 6y agoI did see the original cards once, that was pretty cool. :)
- Wistar 6y agoI have an original deck which was given to me in 1984 by a close friend, a recording engineer who had worked with Brian Eno. He'd had tgem for seversl years before he gave them yo me. I should probably figure out what box in which I have them stored away.
- bbx 6y agoI’d be nice to see a picture of an original deck, especially from Brian Eno. Also, I believe the list of messages has changed over the years so it’s be interesting to see which list you have.
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- Wistar 6y agoIf I ever find them, I will photograph them. I do know that I made the mistake of writing my name on the exterior of the box in metallic gold Sharpie—an idiotic thing to do and that I immediately regretted.
- louthy 6y agoI have a deck (pics: [1][2]), not original - probably from around 2001-2002, but they are :) There's a twitter bot that randomly posts the cards [3], which is cool too [1] https://tinyurl.com/yy76phgw https://tinyurl.com/yy76phgw [2] https://tinyurl.com/y4xfu57b https://tinyurl.com/y4xfu57b [3] https://twitter.com/ObliqueBot https://twitter.com/ObliqueBot
- zzkt 6y ago...and the emacs edition. https://github.com/zzkt/oblique-strategies https://github.com/zzkt/oblique-strategies
- bbx 6y agoSlightly off topic: Phoenix used these strategies for their Grammy-winning album “Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix”. Also, MGMT mentions “ The wisdom of oblique stratagems“ (a play on word) in their aptly-named song “Brian Eno”. For a long time I’ve thought of creating my own version of the deck. I’ve heard it can be used punctually to get out of a dead end, or from the very start through the whole creative process.
- abetusk 6y agoDoes anyone know of anything similar that's public domain? I'm a little surprised that they're included in gnu/linix utilities as they're copyright Eno and Schmidt. The default is, of course, Tarot card readings which has a nicely formatted text and some analysis in the dariusk/corpora repo [1]. It'd be nice to have something similar so others can play around with it without fear of copyright infringement. [1] https://github.com/dariusk/corpora/blob/master/data/divination/tarot_interpretations.json https://github.com/dariusk/corpora/blob/master/data/divinati...
- Arkdy 6y agoYears ago I made an android/react-native tarot app that uses this source. It picks a card based on the recorded time on-press-up as well as the current accelerometer reading. Demo: https://imgur.com/gallery/1UTO0Fe https://imgur.com/gallery/1UTO0Fe I've used it for many bugs while programming. I find that the little bit of insight/encouragement goes a long way.
- samplenoise 6y agoA Twitter bot that generates new ones using GPT-2: https://mobile.twitter.com/infinite_eno https://mobile.twitter.com/infinite_eno. Coincidentally I just revived and tweaked it a bit yesterday, results should be a better from here on. Tweets more or less daily.
- DonHopkins 6y agoThat's so fitting! Brian Eno and Will Wright discussed generative systems at a Long Now Foundation seminar in 2006: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfc-DQorohc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfc-DQorohc Brian Eno and Danny Hillis discussed "The Long Now, Now" at a Long Now Foundation seminar in 2010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvmW4hyccBg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvmW4hyccBg Brian Eno, Steward Brand, and Alexander Rose discuss "Long Finance" at a Long Now Foundation seminar in 2010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31wDsZtKYMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31wDsZtKYMc
- coronadisaster 6y agoLooks like there are a few decks available on eBay
- setereklakshit 6y agoyears back me and my friend had this idea.
- billman 6y agoAllow an easement (an easement is the abandonment of a structure)
- lukko 6y agoI made an animation last year using text from the cards: https://www.lukehale.com/oblique-strategies https://www.lukehale.com/oblique-strategies It was mainly an experiment to see how changing character spacing could create different forms, and then loosely relating those forms back to the prompts.
- motohagiography 6y agoWas not aware of these before. It reminds me of a more functional version of Jenny Holzer's "Truisms." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truisms_(Jenny_Holzer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truisms_(Jenny_Holzer) Where Holzer's statements can be used to explain, Eno's are to resolve.
- srtjstjsj 6y agoOblique Strategies is the "Mother of all Content Blog Topics"
- tomasreimers 6y agoI feel I'm missing a reference - how do you mean?
- meheleventyone 6y agoAlong these lines I really like Jesse Schell's Deck of Lenses. In some ways they are much more useful than the original book. https://www.amazon.com/Art-Game-Design-Lenses-Second/dp/0692288872/ https://www.amazon.com/Art-Game-Design-Lenses-Second/dp/0692... They're a bit more concrete than Oblique Strategies which makes them a bit more useful as a tool rather than just a prompt or something to think on.
- gdubs 6y agoIf this is your first introduction to Brian Eno, do yourself a favor and look into his discography. David Bowie’s “Low” is one of my favorite albums of all time (a collaboration with Eno and Tony Visconti. Side point: Visconti created one of the most interesting snare drum sounds of all time on that album.) His solo albums — “Another Green World”, etc — are also amazing.
- kroltan 6y agoBrian Eno manages to sneak up on lots of my favorite albums. As you said Bowie's "Low", but also David Byrne's "Everything That Happens Will Happen Today", and even the game Spore's soundtrack!
- pengstrom 6y agoHis "Music for Airports" is beautifully serene.
- louthy 6y agoSeconded, my personal favourite. I remember when I first discovered it and even the idea and concept blew me away. Create your own with the Brian Eno Bloom app too :) [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGwrUGu1V1k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGwrUGu1V1k
- vanni 6y agoSomewhat relevant: https://intuiti.it/ https://intuiti.it/ A tool for Creativity born in the Polytechnic University of Milan. A synthesis of Design, Tarot and Gestalt Psychology.
- jccc 6y agoA similarly awesome--and much, much less expensive--deck of cards focused on writing by the screenwriter John August (Big Fish, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Corpse Bride, Frankenweenie): https://www.writeremergency.com/ https://www.writeremergency.com/ (Years before they made this, I was briefly acquainted with one of the creators not named John August.)
- irq 6y agoI’m a big fan of Oblique Strategies, perhaps too big a fan, and I have what is perhaps the most rare edition of them all: the special edition Peter Norton (of Norton Utilities fame) had made as a gift for his friends in 1996. It was never available for purchase but I managed to find one on eBay a few years ago. It has a very unique case made out of Dupont Corion, a material I’ve never seen anywhere else in my life. It feels and looks like white marble but is actually a form of plastic. Some of the cards have been redesigned in collaboration with Peter Norton and Brian Eno, and there’s a unique intro card too. Details on the Peter Norton special edition: http://www.rtqe.net/ObliqueStrategies/Edition4.html http://www.rtqe.net/ObliqueStrategies/Edition4.html Took some pics just now: Case: https://i.imgur.com/7xJcUPP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7xJcUPP.jpg Special Peter Norton card here: https://i.imgur.com/6vtjdGe.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6vtjdGe.jpg Full gallery here: https://imgur.com/gallery/qhEQLTo https://imgur.com/gallery/qhEQLTo
- Cryptid 6y agoYou may mean Corian[1], which is a countertop surface[2] 1: https://www.corian.com/ https://www.corian.com/ 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corian
- wallstprog 6y agoInterestingly, Eno composed the startup sound for Win95: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2015/08/24/the-coolest-feature-of-windows-95-was-created-by-brian-eno-on-a-mac/ http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2015/08/24/the-coolest-fea... Even more interesting is that Robert Fripp (a frequent Eno collaborator) composed the startup sound for Windows Vista: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-LYZt2jisE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-LYZt2jisE