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I'm a bit skeptical about their presumption to be both an app store and a phone provider, but ok, I guess. > $749 USD pre-order Unfortunately, it seems the "s

I'm a bit skeptical about their presumption to be both an app store and a phone provider, but ok, I guess. > $749 USD pre-order Unfortunately, it seems the "security-focused" phone is only for very rich people. I mean, ok, if you can afford a new iPhone you can also afford this, but most people in the world can't spend half this much on a phone.

qchris 6y ago
This is somewhat fair, but I think it's also worth pointing out that it's not a business model w/o precedence. Not too long ago, you could have argued that same thing about the Tesla Model S; "electric cars are only for rich people". The capital from selling at a mark-up to wealthy early adopters helps to fund cheap(er) versions (i.e. Model 3) that are accessible to more people later on. Not a perfect analogy, and Purism's execution isn't exactly comparable to Tesla's, but I think the idea is the same.
devilduck 6y ago
Most people also do not buy their phone in one lump sum. They add payments to their phone bill, so if their carrier doesn't offer this phone, it becomes unaffordable.
judge2020 6y ago
> if you can afford a new iPhone you can also afford this And that's not taking into account the SE which has a modern processor and is $400.
ajconway 6y ago
And, unfortunately, they are expecting to deliver it 6 months from now.
RealStickman_ 6y ago
I think it's worth mentioning that the PinePhone exists as well an can be had for 150$ whenever they launch a new batch (every 2 months or so). It is also a Linux phone, maybe not as privacy focuses as the Librem 5, but it serves a similar niche in my opinion.
- jstanley 6y ago
  What's the best OS to use on the PinePhone?
  - RealStickman_ 6y ago
    In terms of UI, UBPorts with lomiri seems to be the best, however it's extremely restrictive in what you can do with it. (Read only root, fstab resets itself after every reboot). It's also based on Ubuntu 16.04. Personally I have Mobian on it, which is basically Debian with tweaks to work on the Pinephone. You have access to everything in the same way you would have on the desktop. It's using Phosh for the interface. PostmarketOS is cool, but based on alpine and I have no idea how alpine works. Fedora and Arch also have (unofficial) Pinephone spins similar to Mobian, so get whatever package manager suits you best. There are also the Manjaro editions, but I don't really like Manjaro. That's the stuff I tested, though there's more on the Pinephone wiki.
    - jstanley 6y ago
      Thanks! FWIW, I currently run Ubuntu Touch on a OnePlus One.

qchris 6y ago

This is somewhat fair, but I think it's also worth pointing out that it's not a business model w/o precedence. Not too long ago, you could have argued that same thing about the Tesla Model S; "electric cars are only for rich people". The capital from selling at a mark-up to wealthy early adopters helps to fund cheap(er) versions (i.e. Model 3) that are accessible to more people later on. Not a perfect analogy, and Purism's execution isn't exactly comparable to Tesla's, but I think the idea is the same.

devilduck 6y ago

Most people also do not buy their phone in one lump sum. They add payments to their phone bill, so if their carrier doesn't offer this phone, it becomes unaffordable.

judge2020 6y ago

> if you can afford a new iPhone you can also afford this And that's not taking into account the SE which has a modern processor and is $400.

ajconway 6y ago

And, unfortunately, they are expecting to deliver it 6 months from now.

RealStickman_ 6y ago

I think it's worth mentioning that the PinePhone exists as well an can be had for 150$ whenever they launch a new batch (every 2 months or so). It is also a Linux phone, maybe not as privacy focuses as the Librem 5, but it serves a similar niche in my opinion.

jstanley 6y ago
What's the best OS to use on the PinePhone?
- RealStickman_ 6y ago
  In terms of UI, UBPorts with lomiri seems to be the best, however it's extremely restrictive in what you can do with it. (Read only root, fstab resets itself after every reboot). It's also based on Ubuntu 16.04. Personally I have Mobian on it, which is basically Debian with tweaks to work on the Pinephone. You have access to everything in the same way you would have on the desktop. It's using Phosh for the interface. PostmarketOS is cool, but based on alpine and I have no idea how alpine works. Fedora and Arch also have (unofficial) Pinephone spins similar to Mobian, so get whatever package manager suits you best. There are also the Manjaro editions, but I don't really like Manjaro. That's the stuff I tested, though there's more on the Pinephone wiki.
  - jstanley 6y ago
    Thanks! FWIW, I currently run Ubuntu Touch on a OnePlus One.