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I just want a phone with full Windows 10 that is as customizable as desktop computers are. Phones are very powerful nowadays. There's no reason for them to have

I just want a phone with full Windows 10 that is as customizable as desktop computers are. Phones are very powerful nowadays. There's no reason for them to have the same limitations as 10 or even 5 years ago.

dannyw 6y ago
There is a good reason: battery life.
- keenmaster 6y ago
  It's my device. I should have the choice to override the standard use case to unlock the phone's full functionality at the expense of battery life. I almost always have a charging cable with me, and a 20,000 mAh powerbank. Furthermore, there is a lot of room to increase charging speeds, but most phone manufacturers have dragged their feet because extremely fast charging speeds aren't necessary for the standard use case. However, that "standard use case" is outdated and needs to be reevaluated.
  - gambiting 6y ago
    >> Furthermore, there is a lot of room to increase charging speeds, but most phone manufacturers have dragged their feet because extremely fast charging speeds aren't necessary for the standard use case. And you know, the very small matter of rapid charging destroying phone batteries quickly. There are phones out there which will charge at 30 or every 40(!!!) watts of power, but it tends to kill the battery rather quickly. Vast majority of people charge their phones at night, and then the phone gets a good 6-10 hours of uninterrupted charging. If anything, phones charge too quickly by default, at the expense of battery life. >>It's my device. I should have the choice to override the standard use case to unlock the phone's full functionality at the expense of battery life. You're free to do with your device as you please, but I don't see why anyone else should be obliged to cater to your wants and needs.
    - keenmaster 6y ago
      >You're free to do with your device as you please They're not obliged, but there is a good market opportunity to cater (significantly) more to powerusers.
    - realusername 6y ago
      > You're free to do with your device as you please, but I don't see why anyone else should be obliged to cater to your wants and needs. Most devices are very locked-down so I guess that's not true, he can't do as he please with his own device.
    - trissylegs 6y ago
      They also get VERY HOT. I can't hold my phone after using it as a webcam while it's on a wireless charing pixel stand (which is somewhat less than a USB Quickcharge, but more than regular Wireless charging)
zozbot234 6y ago
Windows 10? I don't even want that on my computer, let alone my phone. Of course a mainstream Linux OS (with real desktop+mobile convergence) would be quite nice, and both Purism and the pmOS community are working towards making that possible.
pjmlp 6y ago
I still keep my Lumias around.
fsflover 6y ago
> I just want a phone with full Windows 10 that is as customizable as desktop computers are. The advertised phone is a phone with full GNU/Linux that is as customizable as desktop computers are. So it's almost what you want. A video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH3RbrwhNd8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH3RbrwhNd8 (not Librem 5 yet, but another GNU/Linux phone).

dannyw 6y ago

There is a good reason: battery life.

keenmaster 6y ago
It's my device. I should have the choice to override the standard use case to unlock the phone's full functionality at the expense of battery life. I almost always have a charging cable with me, and a 20,000 mAh powerbank. Furthermore, there is a lot of room to increase charging speeds, but most phone manufacturers have dragged their feet because extremely fast charging speeds aren't necessary for the standard use case. However, that "standard use case" is outdated and needs to be reevaluated.
- gambiting 6y ago
  >> Furthermore, there is a lot of room to increase charging speeds, but most phone manufacturers have dragged their feet because extremely fast charging speeds aren't necessary for the standard use case. And you know, the very small matter of rapid charging destroying phone batteries quickly. There are phones out there which will charge at 30 or every 40(!!!) watts of power, but it tends to kill the battery rather quickly. Vast majority of people charge their phones at night, and then the phone gets a good 6-10 hours of uninterrupted charging. If anything, phones charge too quickly by default, at the expense of battery life. >>It's my device. I should have the choice to override the standard use case to unlock the phone's full functionality at the expense of battery life. You're free to do with your device as you please, but I don't see why anyone else should be obliged to cater to your wants and needs.
  - keenmaster 6y ago
    >You're free to do with your device as you please They're not obliged, but there is a good market opportunity to cater (significantly) more to powerusers.
  - realusername 6y ago
    > You're free to do with your device as you please, but I don't see why anyone else should be obliged to cater to your wants and needs. Most devices are very locked-down so I guess that's not true, he can't do as he please with his own device.
  - trissylegs 6y ago
    They also get VERY HOT. I can't hold my phone after using it as a webcam while it's on a wireless charing pixel stand (which is somewhat less than a USB Quickcharge, but more than regular Wireless charging)

zozbot234 6y ago

Windows 10? I don't even want that on my computer, let alone my phone. Of course a mainstream Linux OS (with real desktop+mobile convergence) would be quite nice, and both Purism and the pmOS community are working towards making that possible.

pjmlp 6y ago

I still keep my Lumias around.

fsflover 6y ago

> I just want a phone with full Windows 10 that is as customizable as desktop computers are. The advertised phone is a phone with full GNU/Linux that is as customizable as desktop computers are. So it's almost what you want. A video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH3RbrwhNd8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH3RbrwhNd8 (not Librem 5 yet, but another GNU/Linux phone).