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Not clamping dawn is user hostile. These are phones and messaging platforms that are under constant attack by bad actors. Semi-ok means the bad actors have succ

Not clamping dawn is user hostile. These are phones and messaging platforms that are under constant attack by bad actors. Semi-ok means the bad actors have succeeded many times on hundreds of millions of devices. Stop mistaking your unique desires for those of the vast majority of smartphone users. Very few care about alternate push notification services, or sideloading, they are happy to use the default app stores and services.

rektide 6y ago
You're being close minded. Neither of us have any idea what would have happened if computing was left open, if the doors didn't keep getting closed, & the presumption that I'm greedy & everyone want & must have stupid, as not just a foregone conclusion, but that this was the only possible path towards that conclusion, that no space could have been created, is tragic to see in people.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  Looking at the piles of malware which litter the Windows PC world and the web, we have a pretty good idea of what would have happened if smartphones were left wide open. Also, Android started far more open than it is now. Over the years been getting more and more restrictive in terms of security because privileges were abused. In the early years Android battery life was particularly bad because of bad performing software. Even with the restrictions in place, Facebook and other apps have been caught abusing privileges to get more CPU rights and burn up battery life (and get collect user information).
  - rektide 6y ago
    This post just landed, & it's a glorious takedown of this clutching of pearls desperate "we need lockdown!!!" close mindedness, https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/techno-cage.html https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/techno-cage.html There has to be space for more. General purpose computing getting snuffed out under the new security regime is accepting the abyss, & we must strive for more.
- imwillofficial 6y ago
  Yeah we would, it’s call the Linux desktop.
  - rektide 6y ago
    I'd say that things would get terrible if Linux were the popular OS, that we'd become a target for malware, & that we are not now. Except since our community actually knows stuff & we have users interests at hearts & it's open source, places like Debian would be largely immune to most of the horseshit.

rektide 6y ago

You're being close minded. Neither of us have any idea what would have happened if computing was left open, if the doors didn't keep getting closed, & the presumption that I'm greedy & everyone want & must have stupid, as not just a foregone conclusion, but that this was the only possible path towards that conclusion, that no space could have been created, is tragic to see in people.

ogre_codes 6y ago
Looking at the piles of malware which litter the Windows PC world and the web, we have a pretty good idea of what would have happened if smartphones were left wide open. Also, Android started far more open than it is now. Over the years been getting more and more restrictive in terms of security because privileges were abused. In the early years Android battery life was particularly bad because of bad performing software. Even with the restrictions in place, Facebook and other apps have been caught abusing privileges to get more CPU rights and burn up battery life (and get collect user information).
- rektide 6y ago
  This post just landed, & it's a glorious takedown of this clutching of pearls desperate "we need lockdown!!!" close mindedness, https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/techno-cage.html https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/techno-cage.html There has to be space for more. General purpose computing getting snuffed out under the new security regime is accepting the abyss, & we must strive for more.
imwillofficial 6y ago
Yeah we would, it’s call the Linux desktop.
- rektide 6y ago
  I'd say that things would get terrible if Linux were the popular OS, that we'd become a target for malware, & that we are not now. Except since our community actually knows stuff & we have users interests at hearts & it's open source, places like Debian would be largely immune to most of the horseshit.