A lot of technology demos are bullshit. That's why I respect Apple so much, 99% of the time what they demo is actual working products they launch. This is why I

A lot of technology demos are bullshit. That's why I respect Apple so much, 99% of the time what they demo is actual working products they launch. This is why I avoid technology kick-starters and pre-orders like the plague. The last time I got suckered into a tech pre-order was the Lilly drone and I managed to shake off their spell and get a refund while they were still in their halo phase and had money to refund people. Personally, I think the DOJ should get more involved in technology pre-sales and prosecute more aggressively. Pre-selling products you can't produce should be considered fraud. The big and obvious difference between Tesla and Nikola is Tesla ships products and has been for years. Not only that, Tesla customers love the cars Tesla ships. Musk makes some exaggerated claims—and some truly egregious time line estimates—but usually ships. I tend to agree with you about the up-charge for FSD though. Definitely a bit of a shell game and moving goal-posts.