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> Ah, and it should last up to three days without intensive use. That is not impressive at all. I can get more from my 2 year old Nokia running Android 10. Ri

> Ah, and it should last up to three days without intensive use. That is not impressive at all. I can get more from my 2 year old Nokia running Android 10. Right now the phone says 1.5 days since last charge and 2 days remaining with my current usage.

pjmlp 6y ago
It took Android 10 years, two major projects (Volta and Butter), alongside multiple iterations of Doze mode, adding restrictions to background execution of Android services, to finally catch up with Nokia phones from 2008. Impressive is how we ended up with something like Android taking over the world of mobile devices, thanks to mismanagement from competition side, and a free beer OS.
- panpanna 6y ago
  Do not ignore that the smartphone has a big power hungry display and is always connected and syncing tons of stuff in the background. Also, 4G drains battery much faster than 3G.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    I can also give Nokia 808 PureView or Nokia N900 as example. Symbian phones were smartphones, with a mikro-kernel and plenty of multiprocessing capabilities via active objects. And Nokia N900 was based on Linux. Time to learn that smartphones did not start with iPhone.
    - panpanna 6y ago
      You are trying to pick up a fight where there is none. Phones today have to do much more than phoned 15 years ago, hence worse battery life. Just compare the battery life of the 808 and the N9.
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        I wasn't the one doing Android advertising without understanding what was already possible before it came into the world. Phones 12 years ago did exactly the same as today, only not for the generation that thinks iPhone created the smartphone. 2020 - 2008 => 12, just for info Even app stores were already a thing, just controlled by mobile operators with margins up to 80%, which makes Apple's 30% that everyone complains a very generous value.
- ece 6y ago
  Oh what I wouldn't give for small screen phones that do just enough on the go. I had a 6301 which had Wifi with good enough maps/email/audio that I kept using well after Android/iOS came out. Add a GPS and a better camera of the 6220 and I would have never given it up.

pjmlp 6y ago

It took Android 10 years, two major projects (Volta and Butter), alongside multiple iterations of Doze mode, adding restrictions to background execution of Android services, to finally catch up with Nokia phones from 2008. Impressive is how we ended up with something like Android taking over the world of mobile devices, thanks to mismanagement from competition side, and a free beer OS.

panpanna 6y ago
Do not ignore that the smartphone has a big power hungry display and is always connected and syncing tons of stuff in the background. Also, 4G drains battery much faster than 3G.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  I can also give Nokia 808 PureView or Nokia N900 as example. Symbian phones were smartphones, with a mikro-kernel and plenty of multiprocessing capabilities via active objects. And Nokia N900 was based on Linux. Time to learn that smartphones did not start with iPhone.
  - panpanna 6y ago
    You are trying to pick up a fight where there is none. Phones today have to do much more than phoned 15 years ago, hence worse battery life. Just compare the battery life of the 808 and the N9.
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      I wasn't the one doing Android advertising without understanding what was already possible before it came into the world. Phones 12 years ago did exactly the same as today, only not for the generation that thinks iPhone created the smartphone. 2020 - 2008 => 12, just for info Even app stores were already a thing, just controlled by mobile operators with margins up to 80%, which makes Apple's 30% that everyone complains a very generous value.
ece 6y ago
Oh what I wouldn't give for small screen phones that do just enough on the go. I had a 6301 which had Wifi with good enough maps/email/audio that I kept using well after Android/iOS came out. Add a GPS and a better camera of the 6220 and I would have never given it up.