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Ace of spades, Minecraft like FPS

118 points by netcrash 15y ago

ugh 15y ago
Nice to see that Minecraft has seemingly created a new genre of first person world building games.
- petewailes 15y ago
  Indeed. I can't wait to see someone building an RTS using this. Imagine how awesome TA would be if you could alter terrain on the fly!
  - JanezStupar 15y ago
    Then you should go and check TA Spring. It has all the good stuff from TA + modern graphics engine + terrain changing mechanics. I remember this epic duel I played vs 2 other guys (yes my teammate quit) in a castle type map. Since I turtled too heavily for them to break through, eventually they just drowned me by blasting me with arty long enough for map's floor to erode beyond water level.
    - JoachimSchipper 15y ago
      That sounds cool, but if I play a game I'm usually going for single-player. Does Spring have a useful AI yet?
      - JanezStupar 15y ago
        Sorry wouldn't know, I don't care much for AI in RTS games.
      - saulrh 15y ago
        There are a few, some quite novel, and they're getting better. For example, one of the new ones exploits the computer's ability to individually micro dozens of scouts to repeatedly pwn your mexes at the beginning of the game.
- Deestan 15y ago
  It's not correct to attribute the voxel game genre to Minecraft. It's just the first game of the genre to reach a considerable level of success. Minecraft is just one of many games that were directly inspired by the underground hit Infiniminer.
  - ugh 15y ago
    Why not? If it’s the one that made it popular then it’s the one that created the genre. Edit: Well, ok, I don't want to put it in such absolute terms. But I do think that Minecraft deserves quite a large chunk of attribution for the genre.
  - danieldk 15y ago
    I fondly remember NovaLogic's Comanche series. While it isn't of the 'world building' genre, its voxel engine was very impressive for its time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanche_series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanche_series Also interesting (historically) is 'Rescue on Fractalus'. Not just for its cheesy name, but also due to its reliance on fractals to draw 3D mountain sceneries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_on_Fractalus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_on_Fractalus! Edit: videos of both games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usj17cxSCKs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usj17cxSCKs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbZ-chrOgGg&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbZ-chrOgGg&feature=playe...
    - Qz 15y ago
      Rescue on Fractalus had one of the most genuinely terrifying game moments of my 'career'. I won't spoil it here, but you can probably guess what it was from the wikipedia page.
      - danieldk 15y ago
        Indeed! Spoiler alert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8opv5u9nf0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8opv5u9nf0 First time (as a kid) was shocking...
CWIZO 15y ago
Is this a completely new thing or is it based on Minecraft's engine?
- jonursenbach 15y ago
  Given that Minecraft isn't open source, this is a new thing.
  - fredoliveira 15y ago
    You're right in that this is a new engine, but the fact that minecraft's engine isn't open source doesn't necessarily come into play here. There's closed-source engine licensing happening everywhere.
    - deleted 15y ago
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- Deestan 15y ago
  Not based on the Minecraft engine. The Minecraft engine is proprietary and closed-source. Also, it is (according to the developers) a bit of a runny mess, so licensing doesn't make sense either.
  - CWIZO 15y ago
    That's a shame. I guess this game would progress more quickly if it could leverage Minecraft's engine, since it looks the concept is nearly the same.
    - euccastro 15y ago
      Leveraging "a bit of a runny mess" doesn't sound like it would make progress quicker. And, once the voxel rendering is implemented, is there that much more for this game to borrow from Minecraft?
beza1e1 15y ago
So, where is the code?
- euccastro 15y ago
  Why has this been downvoted? The game is free software, yet the (temporary) homepage has no link to the sources. This is a most relevant question in a "Hacker News" site.
  - etcet 15y ago
    I haven't heard any mention of this game being free or open source. The software it uses (Voxlap & GenLand) both have permissive non-commercial licenses w/ attribution but are not viral like the GPL.
    - euccastro 15y ago
      I stand corrected. I thought I'd read somewhere that it was free software. Maybe I misread "freeware" in TFA.
- nopassrecover 15y ago
  Actually if you read http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/01/20/proto-minecraft-abandoned-due-to-epic-error/ http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/01/20/proto-minecraft-a... apparently releasing code (unintentionally) is what destroyed Minecraft's inspiration Infiniminer.
thenduks 15y ago
FYI: Windows only.
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rsbrown 15y ago
Jut DL'ed and played for a few minutes. I really like it, but there were issues with lag and general UI responsiveness. Though very rough, I'm excited about the potential for this one.
dylanrw 15y ago
It's a shame it has no Mac client. :/
- olsonjeffery 15y ago
  I actually play AoS on Snow Leopard using a Wineskin wrapper + ie7 (gross, I know.. but all AoS games are launched from the browser and FF didn't work right for me..) If you're familiar with wineskin, the process was something like: 1. create new wrapper 2. in advanced settings, launch winetricks and install ie7 (ie8 is always weird/crippled for me) 3. set homepage to http://ace-spades.com http://ace-spades.com 4. in OSX, download the AoS installer MSI 5. Install the MSI from your Wineskin wrapper 6. Set the ie7 bin to be the "start program" for your wrapper 7. Launch the wrapper 8. Click game 9. Profit!

118 points by netcrash 15y ago

ugh 15y ago

Nice to see that Minecraft has seemingly created a new genre of first person world building games.

petewailes 15y ago
Indeed. I can't wait to see someone building an RTS using this. Imagine how awesome TA would be if you could alter terrain on the fly!
- JanezStupar 15y ago
  Then you should go and check TA Spring. It has all the good stuff from TA + modern graphics engine + terrain changing mechanics. I remember this epic duel I played vs 2 other guys (yes my teammate quit) in a castle type map. Since I turtled too heavily for them to break through, eventually they just drowned me by blasting me with arty long enough for map's floor to erode beyond water level.
  - JoachimSchipper 15y ago
    That sounds cool, but if I play a game I'm usually going for single-player. Does Spring have a useful AI yet?
    - JanezStupar 15y ago
      Sorry wouldn't know, I don't care much for AI in RTS games.
    - saulrh 15y ago
      There are a few, some quite novel, and they're getting better. For example, one of the new ones exploits the computer's ability to individually micro dozens of scouts to repeatedly pwn your mexes at the beginning of the game.
Deestan 15y ago
It's not correct to attribute the voxel game genre to Minecraft. It's just the first game of the genre to reach a considerable level of success. Minecraft is just one of many games that were directly inspired by the underground hit Infiniminer.
- ugh 15y ago
  Why not? If it’s the one that made it popular then it’s the one that created the genre. Edit: Well, ok, I don't want to put it in such absolute terms. But I do think that Minecraft deserves quite a large chunk of attribution for the genre.
- danieldk 15y ago
  I fondly remember NovaLogic's Comanche series. While it isn't of the 'world building' genre, its voxel engine was very impressive for its time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanche_series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanche_series Also interesting (historically) is 'Rescue on Fractalus'. Not just for its cheesy name, but also due to its reliance on fractals to draw 3D mountain sceneries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_on_Fractalus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_on_Fractalus! Edit: videos of both games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usj17cxSCKs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usj17cxSCKs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbZ-chrOgGg&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbZ-chrOgGg&feature=playe...
  - Qz 15y ago
    Rescue on Fractalus had one of the most genuinely terrifying game moments of my 'career'. I won't spoil it here, but you can probably guess what it was from the wikipedia page.
    - danieldk 15y ago
      Indeed! Spoiler alert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8opv5u9nf0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8opv5u9nf0 First time (as a kid) was shocking...

CWIZO 15y ago

Is this a completely new thing or is it based on Minecraft's engine?

jonursenbach 15y ago
Given that Minecraft isn't open source, this is a new thing.
- fredoliveira 15y ago
  You're right in that this is a new engine, but the fact that minecraft's engine isn't open source doesn't necessarily come into play here. There's closed-source engine licensing happening everywhere.
  - deleted 15y ago
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Deestan 15y ago
Not based on the Minecraft engine. The Minecraft engine is proprietary and closed-source. Also, it is (according to the developers) a bit of a runny mess, so licensing doesn't make sense either.
- CWIZO 15y ago
  That's a shame. I guess this game would progress more quickly if it could leverage Minecraft's engine, since it looks the concept is nearly the same.
  - euccastro 15y ago
    Leveraging "a bit of a runny mess" doesn't sound like it would make progress quicker. And, once the voxel rendering is implemented, is there that much more for this game to borrow from Minecraft?

beza1e1 15y ago

So, where is the code?

euccastro 15y ago
Why has this been downvoted? The game is free software, yet the (temporary) homepage has no link to the sources. This is a most relevant question in a "Hacker News" site.
- etcet 15y ago
  I haven't heard any mention of this game being free or open source. The software it uses (Voxlap & GenLand) both have permissive non-commercial licenses w/ attribution but are not viral like the GPL.
  - euccastro 15y ago
    I stand corrected. I thought I'd read somewhere that it was free software. Maybe I misread "freeware" in TFA.
nopassrecover 15y ago
Actually if you read http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/01/20/proto-minecraft-abandoned-due-to-epic-error/ http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/01/20/proto-minecraft-a... apparently releasing code (unintentionally) is what destroyed Minecraft's inspiration Infiniminer.

thenduks 15y ago

FYI: Windows only.

deleted 15y ago

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rsbrown 15y ago

Jut DL'ed and played for a few minutes. I really like it, but there were issues with lag and general UI responsiveness. Though very rough, I'm excited about the potential for this one.

dylanrw 15y ago

It's a shame it has no Mac client. :/

olsonjeffery 15y ago
I actually play AoS on Snow Leopard using a Wineskin wrapper + ie7 (gross, I know.. but all AoS games are launched from the browser and FF didn't work right for me..) If you're familiar with wineskin, the process was something like: 1. create new wrapper 2. in advanced settings, launch winetricks and install ie7 (ie8 is always weird/crippled for me) 3. set homepage to http://ace-spades.com http://ace-spades.com 4. in OSX, download the AoS installer MSI 5. Install the MSI from your Wineskin wrapper 6. Set the ie7 bin to be the "start program" for your wrapper 7. Launch the wrapper 8. Click game 9. Profit!