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It's a cultural thing. Some people can't imagine living wihout a car, others can't imagine using disposable diapers, others can't imagine not forcing women to w
by dmos62 6y ago
It's a cultural thing. Some people can't imagine living wihout a car, others can't imagine using disposable diapers, others can't imagine not forcing women to wear a veil. Or, for example, is your trash production a private affair, or is it a communal responsibility, subject to scrutiny?
If you're flexible you can set up your outlook however you think is best. And there are of course prevailing mindsets, depending on where you are. For me, Vauban seems closer to ideal than a lot of other places.
I think often people, who find themselves closer to mainstream, find themselves judged, or fearing judgment, from the marginal "progressives" (and vice versa). I think it's normal for this mainstream-marginal tension to exist, and it's independent of whatever the distinguishing opinions are. If the tension is getting bad, it's just a symptom of people having trouble socialising; capacity for variety is a major societal health indicator. Doesn't really say anything about the actual topics discussed, like eco-friendliness in this case.
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- margo209320 6y ago> not forcing women to wear a veil How the fuck does THAT fit with the other examples you gave? The word "force" in there should make it pretty clear that it's not ok or just a matter of opinion.
- stevenhuang 6y ago> It's a cultural thing. It was just another example of cultural behavior. It was not a normative statement.
- hh3k0 6y agoThat's easy, just paraphrase owning a car. I'm thinking something along the lines of "force the generations that are coming after you to live in a dystopian hellscape because you preferred comfort." Now it fits quite nicely.
- M277 6y agoThe point is that people have different outlooks and views, and you shouldn't force yours on them (or vice versa). Your list of what is wrong is not necessarily someone else's list of what is wrong. Similarly, your list of right is not necessarily someone else's list of what is right. For many of these people, it's not a matter of "force". They (including women) accept it as the normal. (Disclaimer: I live in Egypt, which is a Muslim country. However, it's much less strict compared to the others.)