> There's a growing group that believes ... certain fields are "in on it" ... some big conspiracy to do some vague, undefined thing I mean, I won't fault anyon

> There's a growing group that believes ... certain fields are "in on it" ... some big conspiracy to do some vague, undefined thing I mean, I won't fault anyone if they are jaded and distrust everything the "experts" have to say these days. Look at what we witnessed in the last 20 or so years: 1. Iraq war, where our intelligence agencies were sure about WMDs and the senate voted 97-0 to wage a war that ended up wasting thousands of American lives, trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives along with destabilizing the entire region. 2. Financial crisis, where the so-called masters of the Universe from Wall St crashed the entire economy and the "maestro" Greenspan denied the existence of a housing bubble in 2005. 3. Recent revelations that scientific studies about the ill effects of sugar were suppressed in 60's / 70's and instead sugar lobby spent money on deflecting blame to fat. 4. Snowden revelations. 5. Details uncovered about the Harvard admissions process which show how the elites are favored via legacy or obscure sports admissions. 6. TPP, especially the way it was conducted where the elected representatives didn't have any access to the details of the negotiations, while the lobbyists from the key industries had full access. You keep reading that kind of stuff and you start discounting "elite opinions" more and more.