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Further, GP notes > "they must take on a punishingly expensive college education or they’ll never amount to anything." Except that high school graduates have

Further, GP notes > "they must take on a punishingly expensive college education or they’ll never amount to anything." Except that high school graduates have the option to do 2 years of community college (~5k) and 2 years at a state school (~13k). Generally possible to most while living at home for no additional rent. CS jobs are in high supply and 100k+ out of college. The college cost would be paid off in a year. Then there's the fact that many positions are not requiring a college education at all.

arvinsim 6y ago
> Then there's the fact that many positions are not requiring a college education at all. Tell that to companies who still are filtering applicants based on their college education.
- reducesuffering 6y ago
  Of course there are. There are still many companies that aren't and software engineers are still in very high demand.
TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
> 100k+ out of college Isn't this only true in a few select cities? I don't think the average programmer is getting paid that (the AU equivalent) much here in Australia outside of maybe some companies in Melbourne and Sydney and maybe Adelaide.
- reducesuffering 6y ago
  The article and thread was talking about the US, which has the highest software salaries worldwide and where I was referring to for the 100k+ compensation. While I don't know too much about the Australian market, positions all across the US are 100k+ entry level. Not just in a few select cities, but probably in almost every state. Like Nebraska, Texas, and Tennessee with median house prices just 2x that entry level compensation.[0][1][2] [0]https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=Omaha,+NE&radius=100&explvl=entry_level https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=O... [1]https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=Texas&radius=100&explvl=entry_level https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=T... [2]https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=Tennessee&radius=100&explvl=entry_level https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=T...
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arvinsim 6y ago

> Then there's the fact that many positions are not requiring a college education at all. Tell that to companies who still are filtering applicants based on their college education.

reducesuffering 6y ago
Of course there are. There are still many companies that aren't and software engineers are still in very high demand.

TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago

> 100k+ out of college Isn't this only true in a few select cities? I don't think the average programmer is getting paid that (the AU equivalent) much here in Australia outside of maybe some companies in Melbourne and Sydney and maybe Adelaide.

reducesuffering 6y ago
The article and thread was talking about the US, which has the highest software salaries worldwide and where I was referring to for the 100k+ compensation. While I don't know too much about the Australian market, positions all across the US are 100k+ entry level. Not just in a few select cities, but probably in almost every state. Like Nebraska, Texas, and Tennessee with median house prices just 2x that entry level compensation.[0][1][2] [0]https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=Omaha,+NE&radius=100&explvl=entry_level https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=O... [1]https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=Texas&radius=100&explvl=entry_level https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=T... [2]https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=Tennessee&radius=100&explvl=entry_level https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Software+Engineer+$100,000&l=T...

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