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If you follow the article around you realize this isn't about money invested but simply based on how many scientific articles are being published [0] and not do

If you follow the article around you realize this isn't about money invested but simply based on how many scientific articles are being published [0] and not dollars invested even though they toss in one Chinese based companies number. Personally I do not find article count a good number to base the claim on. Percentage of GPD might not be a good reference either but then again I am not 100% sure a dollar for dollar comparison works well in all cases. [0]https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/01/top-ten-countries-leading-scientific-publications-in-the-world/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/01/top-ten-countries-lea...

lobotryas 6y ago
Exactly. The funny thing is that many Chinese science articles have been found to be completely fake. Quantity over quality. Doesn’t mean we can relax, but nothing about China can be judged by Western standards.
exolymph 6y ago
Basically all trend "reporting" is some Goodhart's law nonsense like this.
searchableguy 6y ago
There was also this article linked about federal decrease in R&D spending: https://itif.org/publications/2018/12/14/dwindling-federal-support-rd-recipe-economic-and-strategic-decline https://itif.org/publications/2018/12/14/dwindling-federal-s... Can someone link me historical total R&D spending data for US? I found https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44307.pdf https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44307.pdf which states: > The United States became a global leader in R&D in the 20th century, funding as much as 69% of annual global R&D in the period following World War II. 1 Figure 1 shows the growth in total U.S. R&D expenditures from 1953 to 2018 in current dollars. 2 U.S. R&D in 2018 was 112 times higher than it was in 1953 in current dollars, and more than 15 times higher in constant dollars.3 By sector, business-funded R&D grew the most during this period. However, faster growth in total R&D spending of other nations reduced the U.S. share of global R&D to approximately 27.7% in 2017.
- TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
  > in the period following World War II. That'd likely tbe because most the rest of the developed world had been reduced to rubble. 27% is still a hugely outsized slice of the pie.

lobotryas 6y ago

Exactly. The funny thing is that many Chinese science articles have been found to be completely fake. Quantity over quality. Doesn’t mean we can relax, but nothing about China can be judged by Western standards.

exolymph 6y ago

Basically all trend "reporting" is some Goodhart's law nonsense like this.

searchableguy 6y ago

There was also this article linked about federal decrease in R&D spending: https://itif.org/publications/2018/12/14/dwindling-federal-support-rd-recipe-economic-and-strategic-decline https://itif.org/publications/2018/12/14/dwindling-federal-s... Can someone link me historical total R&D spending data for US? I found https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44307.pdf https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44307.pdf which states: > The United States became a global leader in R&D in the 20th century, funding as much as 69% of annual global R&D in the period following World War II. 1 Figure 1 shows the growth in total U.S. R&D expenditures from 1953 to 2018 in current dollars. 2 U.S. R&D in 2018 was 112 times higher than it was in 1953 in current dollars, and more than 15 times higher in constant dollars.3 By sector, business-funded R&D grew the most during this period. However, faster growth in total R&D spending of other nations reduced the U.S. share of global R&D to approximately 27.7% in 2017.

TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
> in the period following World War II. That'd likely tbe because most the rest of the developed world had been reduced to rubble. 27% is still a hugely outsized slice of the pie.