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Great video. The realization that "beating Super Mario Bros. 3" is much less well-defined than I thought is very interesting. Not just technically, but like the

Great video. The realization that "beating Super Mario Bros. 3" is much less well-defined than I thought is very interesting. Not just technically, but like there's some philosophical metaphor that I can't quite describe...

devindotcom 6y ago
Yeah, that's why the community has specific categories for different runs. I appreciate glitched runs because of the acumen needed to accomplish them but it's 100% runs that truly impress me most as a gamer. The speedrun world is almost like a scholarly domain, with all the usual bickering about terminology, whether this qualifies as that, and so on. I would be interested to read an ethnology of the community.
- striking 6y ago
  > The speedrun world is almost like a scholarly domain, with all the usual bickering about terminology Right. Like the most recent 100% runs of Ocarina of Time[1], which use glitches to obtain items early and break the sequence of the game, while still obtaining every item from its source eventually making them still legitimate 100% runs. You'd think "100%" and "glitchless" were synonymous, but they're not anymore! 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4nc4lhj3Uk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4nc4lhj3Uk
  - thomasfortes 6y ago
    Terraria speedruns have a NMA category (no major abuses) that have a set of rules defined by the community, if more games start to make 100% possible with glitches I can imagine these games adopting something similar.
  - fernandotakai 6y ago
    >You'd think "100%" and "glitchless" were synonymous, but they're not anymore! they never wore! it all depends on the community definition. you can have 100% glitchless and 100% with glitches. or you can have both have the same category. it all depends on what the runners define.
jachee 6y ago
I think the key attribute of "Any %" disconnecting success from actual content completion is essential for this sort of thing to succeed, but also what separates it from the mundane definition of "beating the game."

devindotcom 6y ago

Yeah, that's why the community has specific categories for different runs. I appreciate glitched runs because of the acumen needed to accomplish them but it's 100% runs that truly impress me most as a gamer. The speedrun world is almost like a scholarly domain, with all the usual bickering about terminology, whether this qualifies as that, and so on. I would be interested to read an ethnology of the community.

striking 6y ago
> The speedrun world is almost like a scholarly domain, with all the usual bickering about terminology Right. Like the most recent 100% runs of Ocarina of Time[1], which use glitches to obtain items early and break the sequence of the game, while still obtaining every item from its source eventually making them still legitimate 100% runs. You'd think "100%" and "glitchless" were synonymous, but they're not anymore! 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4nc4lhj3Uk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4nc4lhj3Uk
- thomasfortes 6y ago
  Terraria speedruns have a NMA category (no major abuses) that have a set of rules defined by the community, if more games start to make 100% possible with glitches I can imagine these games adopting something similar.
- fernandotakai 6y ago
  >You'd think "100%" and "glitchless" were synonymous, but they're not anymore! they never wore! it all depends on the community definition. you can have 100% glitchless and 100% with glitches. or you can have both have the same category. it all depends on what the runners define.

jachee 6y ago

I think the key attribute of "Any %" disconnecting success from actual content completion is essential for this sort of thing to succeed, but also what separates it from the mundane definition of "beating the game."