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Good comparison tbh. MMOs are one of the most toxic game genre (only topped by MOBAs) and that perfectly fits to the holier than thou attitude of the majority o
by haunter 6y ago
Good comparison tbh. MMOs are one of the most toxic game genre (only topped by MOBAs) and that perfectly fits to the holier than thou attitude of the majority of editors
- fireattack 6y agoI'd say MMO only won this over some competitive genres games like FPS is because people in these games don't have time to type.
- Insanity 6y agoPlenty of time to do so when waiting to respawn in e.g counter-strike
- leetcrew 6y agoyeah cs has always been pretty toxic. I think the culture of the game matters a lot more than the genre. though it is an MMO, I've always found EVE players to be very polite ingame. won't stop them from scamming you out of every last isk in your wallet, of course.
- fireattack 6y agoMMORPG today in general is more polite than its heyday too, since the players are older and more relaxed (younger generations don't play MMORPG as much anymore).
- Mediterraneo10 6y agoAnd just as some people somehow manage to play MMOs every waking hour of the day even as ordinary people would have e.g. a job and a family, so Wikipedia has editors who somehow manage to edit all day every day. I have been active in Wikipedia since shortly after its founding and I am quite familiar with all processes and standards, but I have had edits reverted simply because my edit history struck the obsessive editors as too casual; if I wasn’t editing constantly around the clock like them, then I was seen as too low-quality an editor for my edits to stand.
- haunter 6y agoMy main problem that a lot of times I want to do a raid and not the game but the players won't let me do it. The game doesn't say you need this class or this item level, actually anyone can and encouraged to do it. But then you are there against the boss and another player turns up and kills it before you. "Sorry you not meant to kill this boss, this _our_ boss, go farm something else". Then you are locked out from the instance and scratch your head what to do. That's especially frustrating when you know the other players use a very wrong or inefficient strategy (my strat would work 10x faster!) and even worse: you know those players don't even need the loot from the boss (they can't even equip it or they already have it). So why don't they let others join the fun?
- Talanes 6y agoBy definition, when you are in an instance, there shouldn't be another rando there to take the boss. What games are you playing?
- the_jeremy 6y agoThis reminds me heavily of Stack Overflow culture.
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- renewiltord 6y agoIf you don't mind, would you like to share one such edit that was reverted for that reason?
- mrweasel 6y agoI wonder what makes some people behave like that? It’s a pretty annoying behavior akin to the way mega fans behave when encountering “lesser fans”.
- busterarm 6y agoScary when you consider that "winning" this game means you get to control the interpretation of facts.
- chki 6y agoYes but interestingly it's also somewhat calming because the "winners" tend to see winning as the goal. Maliciously changing facts is almost never their goal because Wikipedia itself is their main (maybe obsessive) focus. It might not be good for them but it's not that dangerous for us readers.
- busterarm 6y agoThat just means they are enforcing their biases on the information. Winning doesn't mean they got it correct, just that they achieved control of the narrative. That's going to push the means of winning to editing towards the collective biases of the majority of wikipedia editors. Just consider the fact that at various times in our history that commonly accepted knowledge was that the Earth was flat, the Sun, Moon and Stars revolved around it and that slaves were property instead of people. Effectively this is a proof that mob-sourced information tends towards the mob's interpretation of information and is not necessarily the truth. I think a lot of people reading Wikipedia forget this and makes me disagree with your last statement -- there's a high potential for danger to the reader if the prevailing mob opinion is outwardly destructive or self-destructive.
- TheNorthman 6y agoThat's just what encyclopedias are though, the collective mentality of it's editors, their ideology, so to speak. You were never free to just consume encyclopedias, they were always meant to be understood in the context of their creation. What makes Wikipedia different from its competitors is the sheer diversity of editors contributing.
- moonbug 6y agofine, except that Wikipedia editors aren't diverse.
- Kaze404 6y agoDepends on the MMO. Final Fantasy XIV and Guild Wars 2 were both incredibly friendly experiences for me.
- andrepd 6y agoLikewise. MMOs are usually fondly remembered as friendly experiences when it comes to player interaction.
- ifmpx 6y agoYet MOBAs MMOs continue to thrive. Perhaps toxicity isn't as negative as often portrayed.
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