This conversation was deeply frustrating. I'm ordinarily a huge fan of Fridman's show, but he gave this guy an inch and he took a mile. Essentially using recour

This conversation was deeply frustrating. I'm ordinarily a huge fan of Fridman's show, but he gave this guy an inch and he took a mile. Essentially using recourse to expertise (and constant references to military acronyms) to give credence to claims to go way beyond what he directly experienced. It's pretty clear that despite his protestations Fravor enjoys the limelight and had become pretty inducted into the 'ufologist' community. His experience is interesting and valid. His conclusions were anything but. Most notably, given the US govts well documented history of experimenting on members of the military, which seems more likely: a) That (as he clearly believes) intelligent aliens with anti-gravity and necessarily ftl drives cross the vast chasms of interstellar space to buzz some aviators or b) that this was the result of either a natural phenomena or a psychological experiment on the airmen themselves. When we eliminate the almost certainly impossible, a whole range of improbable but vastly more likely alternatives present themselves.