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A very capable 2020 MacBook is $999 new and $849 certified refurbished.

by pbreit 6y ago

YetAnotherNick 6y ago
Or macincloud is $20/month with GUI access.
q3k 6y ago
That's a lot of money for the vast majority of software developers outside of the SV bubble.
- scarface74 6y ago
  Really? I’m geographically as far outside of the SV bubble as geographically possible and still live in the US. $799 for a Mac Mini or $999 for a MacBook Air is not some super luxury that most middle class Americans can’t afford. The Mac Mini is about the same price as a mid tier iPhone. The average selling price of a PC in the US is $639. https://www.statista.com/statistics/722992/worldwide-personal-computers-average-selling-price/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/722992/worldwide-persona...
  - q3k 6y ago
    I think that's missing the point. Sure, it's not far off the price of a computer - but it's still not an amount of money that you spend on a whim just because you need occasional access to macOS. It's the price of a (second) computer, and an above-average price too.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      But it’s not some luxury good that only people in the “SV bubble” can afford. If I were serious about being cross platform, why wouldn’t I just buy a Mac since it can run Windows, Linux and Mac software and I can build both Android and iOS software? You don’t even have to buy a new Mac. You can always buy a used 2014 Mac Mini.
      - q3k 6y ago
        > If I were serious about being cross platform, why wouldn’t I just buy a Mac since it can run Windows, Linux and Mac software and I can build both Android and iOS software? I personally wouldn't buy one as it's not worth the money performance-wise [1], and I don't like Mac hardware/software in the first place. > You don’t even have to buy a new Mac. You can always buy a used 2014 Mac Mini. It's still a shame to have to spend $300+ to use an underpowered 6 year old machine while I have perfectly capable Ryzen cores sitting here idle. [1] - 8GB and 4-core i5 for a Macbook at the same price of my 32GB and 8-core Ryzen 4750U current laptop. A maxed out MBP, still not reaching the same CPU/GPU specs as my T14 is over 1000eur more expensive.
    - pbreit 6y ago
      It's not a whim. For a software developer it could easily be used 8 hours/day 5 days/week. Or more.

A very capable 2020 MacBook is $999 new and $849 certified refurbished.

by pbreit 6y ago

A very capable 2020 MacBook is $999 new and $849 certified refurbished.

YetAnotherNick 6y ago

Or macincloud is $20/month with GUI access.

q3k 6y ago

That's a lot of money for the vast majority of software developers outside of the SV bubble.

scarface74 6y ago
Really? I’m geographically as far outside of the SV bubble as geographically possible and still live in the US. $799 for a Mac Mini or $999 for a MacBook Air is not some super luxury that most middle class Americans can’t afford. The Mac Mini is about the same price as a mid tier iPhone. The average selling price of a PC in the US is $639. https://www.statista.com/statistics/722992/worldwide-personal-computers-average-selling-price/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/722992/worldwide-persona...
- q3k 6y ago
  I think that's missing the point. Sure, it's not far off the price of a computer - but it's still not an amount of money that you spend on a whim just because you need occasional access to macOS. It's the price of a (second) computer, and an above-average price too.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    But it’s not some luxury good that only people in the “SV bubble” can afford. If I were serious about being cross platform, why wouldn’t I just buy a Mac since it can run Windows, Linux and Mac software and I can build both Android and iOS software? You don’t even have to buy a new Mac. You can always buy a used 2014 Mac Mini.
    - q3k 6y ago
      > If I were serious about being cross platform, why wouldn’t I just buy a Mac since it can run Windows, Linux and Mac software and I can build both Android and iOS software? I personally wouldn't buy one as it's not worth the money performance-wise [1], and I don't like Mac hardware/software in the first place. > You don’t even have to buy a new Mac. You can always buy a used 2014 Mac Mini. It's still a shame to have to spend $300+ to use an underpowered 6 year old machine while I have perfectly capable Ryzen cores sitting here idle. [1] - 8GB and 4-core i5 for a Macbook at the same price of my 32GB and 8-core Ryzen 4750U current laptop. A maxed out MBP, still not reaching the same CPU/GPU specs as my T14 is over 1000eur more expensive.
  - pbreit 6y ago
    It's not a whim. For a software developer it could easily be used 8 hours/day 5 days/week. Or more.