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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBaL-5o1oc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBaL-5o1oc The response from China's ambassador to the UK isn't quite a convincing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBaL-5o1oc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBaL-5o1oc The response from China's ambassador to the UK isn't quite a convincing explanation to me. Not even his verbal, but also non-verbal communication. There is no reasonable explanation for the footage being shown.

jessaustin 6y ago
Yeah, he seems about as trustworthy as Mike Pompeo. The government in China, like governments elsewhere, might well be doing terrible things to millions of people. If that were true, it would be good to have actual evidence of that, rather than the hot garbage described in TFA or, frankly, an anonymously posted video that appears to show a few hundred men shackled at a train station. I can't even tell whether those men are Asian, let alone Uighur as Guardian confidently assures us. It isn't clear, for instance, why the texts on the uniforms of both the "prisoners" and the "guards" use Latin rather than Chinese characters.
- greenyoda 6y ago
  > "it would be good to have actual evidence of that" The following Wikipedia articles seem to cite many references on what's happening to the Uyghurs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
  - jessaustin 6y ago
    The name "Zenz" appears sixteen times at that link. No thanks!
    - yorwba 6y ago
      Maybe the Xinjiang United Front's "26 signs of illegal religious activity" are more convincing? Even if you can't read Chinese, they have some nice meme images about evil Muslims: http://xjtzb.gov.cn/2017-06/19/c_1121167392.htm http://xjtzb.gov.cn/2017-06/19/c_1121167392.htm
    - greenyoda 6y ago
      True, but he's an author of only 7 of the 360 references cited in that article.
- yorwba 6y ago
  > why the texts on the uniforms of both the "prisoners" and the "guards" use Latin rather than Chinese characters. The uniform of Chinese special police says "特SWAT警" on the back, presumably so that even people who can't read Chinese know who they're dealing with.

jessaustin 6y ago

Yeah, he seems about as trustworthy as Mike Pompeo. The government in China, like governments elsewhere, might well be doing terrible things to millions of people. If that were true, it would be good to have actual evidence of that, rather than the hot garbage described in TFA or, frankly, an anonymously posted video that appears to show a few hundred men shackled at a train station. I can't even tell whether those men are Asian, let alone Uighur as Guardian confidently assures us. It isn't clear, for instance, why the texts on the uniforms of both the "prisoners" and the "guards" use Latin rather than Chinese characters.

greenyoda 6y ago
> "it would be good to have actual evidence of that" The following Wikipedia articles seem to cite many references on what's happening to the Uyghurs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
- jessaustin 6y ago
  The name "Zenz" appears sixteen times at that link. No thanks!
  - yorwba 6y ago
    Maybe the Xinjiang United Front's "26 signs of illegal religious activity" are more convincing? Even if you can't read Chinese, they have some nice meme images about evil Muslims: http://xjtzb.gov.cn/2017-06/19/c_1121167392.htm http://xjtzb.gov.cn/2017-06/19/c_1121167392.htm
  - greenyoda 6y ago
    True, but he's an author of only 7 of the 360 references cited in that article.
yorwba 6y ago
> why the texts on the uniforms of both the "prisoners" and the "guards" use Latin rather than Chinese characters. The uniform of Chinese special police says "特SWAT警" on the back, presumably so that even people who can't read Chinese know who they're dealing with.