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Not sure how that computer related. In Germany all voting places are wheelchair accessible. Additionally for the blind, there’s a Stimmzettelschablonen that all

Not sure how that computer related. In Germany all voting places are wheelchair accessible. Additionally for the blind, there’s a Stimmzettelschablonen that allows you to vote in secret. These issues can be solved without computers.

chrisseaton 6y ago
Accessible... to people not able to get to a voting location or postbox. > In Germany all voting places are wheelchair accessible. There are accessibility concerns beyond just wheelchairs you know...
- PeterisP 6y ago
  My local elections have each voting location team do home visits on election day for people who physically can't get to a voting location due to disability, severe ilness, etc - in the last elections it was used by the people home-isolating due to Covid. There aren't that many people like that, it takes some funding and effort to make an exception for them, but it is manageable.
- pdonis 6y ago
  > Accessible... to people not able to get to a voting location or postbox. A person doesn't have to be able to get to a post office themselves to cast an absentee ballot. They just have to be able to fill out the ballot and sign it. Someone else can mail it for them.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    > They just have to be able to fill out the ballot and sign it. Someone else can mail it for them. Right, so they have to be able to reliably receive mail at a location fixed at least a little time in advance, and either send mail or give it to someone to send mail, and then it needs to reliably get to its destination. Not all of those things are always easy for all people's situations. As a practical example - see the difficulty that homeless people have voting in many cases. Voting online as an option would possibly solve them for some people.
    - pdonis 6y ago
      Given the risks of online voting, I would rather put time and effort into making sure every voter who needs an absentee ballot can reliably receive one and reliably send it back. That seems like a better goal to shoot for.
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- dividuum 6y ago
  In Germany you can request to vote by mail. Additionally you can get instructions on Audio CD, in braille or large fonts. As I said, this can and is all solvable without complex technology.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    Would you be surprised if I told you some people struggle to send and receive mail?
    - pmyteh 6y ago
      In Britain, we deal with this problem partly by allowing proxy voting, where you can expressly authorise someone else to vote (in person) on your behalf. I had to do this once when my wife had an unexpected business trip after the postal vote registration deadline had closed. It's obviously not ideal from a vote privacy point of view, but it does provide a useful solution to some of the corner cases preventing voting in person or by mail.

chrisseaton 6y ago

Accessible... to people not able to get to a voting location or postbox. > In Germany all voting places are wheelchair accessible. There are accessibility concerns beyond just wheelchairs you know...

PeterisP 6y ago
My local elections have each voting location team do home visits on election day for people who physically can't get to a voting location due to disability, severe ilness, etc - in the last elections it was used by the people home-isolating due to Covid. There aren't that many people like that, it takes some funding and effort to make an exception for them, but it is manageable.
pdonis 6y ago
> Accessible... to people not able to get to a voting location or postbox. A person doesn't have to be able to get to a post office themselves to cast an absentee ballot. They just have to be able to fill out the ballot and sign it. Someone else can mail it for them.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > They just have to be able to fill out the ballot and sign it. Someone else can mail it for them. Right, so they have to be able to reliably receive mail at a location fixed at least a little time in advance, and either send mail or give it to someone to send mail, and then it needs to reliably get to its destination. Not all of those things are always easy for all people's situations. As a practical example - see the difficulty that homeless people have voting in many cases. Voting online as an option would possibly solve them for some people.
  - pdonis 6y ago
    Given the risks of online voting, I would rather put time and effort into making sure every voter who needs an absentee ballot can reliably receive one and reliably send it back. That seems like a better goal to shoot for.
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dividuum 6y ago
In Germany you can request to vote by mail. Additionally you can get instructions on Audio CD, in braille or large fonts. As I said, this can and is all solvable without complex technology.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  Would you be surprised if I told you some people struggle to send and receive mail?
  - pmyteh 6y ago
    In Britain, we deal with this problem partly by allowing proxy voting, where you can expressly authorise someone else to vote (in person) on your behalf. I had to do this once when my wife had an unexpected business trip after the postal vote registration deadline had closed. It's obviously not ideal from a vote privacy point of view, but it does provide a useful solution to some of the corner cases preventing voting in person or by mail.