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"A conspiracy to modify Windows so Netscape-rendered content would appear "degraded"" This sounds like what Apple is doing right now and everyone keeps defendi

"A conspiracy to modify Windows so Netscape-rendered content would appear "degraded"" This sounds like what Apple is doing right now and everyone keeps defending it when it actual fact it's even worse. Degraded non safari web browser performance on iOS ring a bell?

Tade0 6y ago
Also like the thing that pushed the Edge team to switch to Blink.
- tln 6y ago
  Sorry, how is that related?
spideymans 6y ago
> This sounds like what Apple is doing right now I believe Apple rectified the third party browser performance issue in the 2015 revision of WKWebView https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/new-chrome-for-ios-is-finally-as-fast-and-stable-as-safari/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/new-chrome-for-ios-i...
- fzzzy 6y ago
  That would allow a company to equal the speed of safari, not surpass it.
w0utert 6y ago
>> This sounds like what Apple is doing right now and everyone keeps defending it when it actual fact it's even worse What is it exactly that Apple is doing that you are referring to (I honestly don’t know)?
- deleted 6y ago
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- fzzzy 6y ago
  Preventing third party jit, thus forcing chrome and firefox and other non-safari browsers to use webkit for their implementations.
- MattRix 6y ago
  The Safari web browser on mobile runs better than if you ran it embedded in an app. And also you can't run any other browser engine in an app.
jeffbee 6y ago
Apple also constantly prompts me to use their browser instead of the one I like, despite the fact that I've expressed my preference hundreds of times over the years.
- sg47 6y ago
  Chrome does the same thing on Android. These days I prefer Safari because Google thinks it's ok to show me ads and news items based on my searches for medical issues.
  - jeffbee 6y ago
    Android asks you if you want to switch to Chrome when you open Firefox?
    - searchableguy 6y ago
      No. It asks you at first whether you want to use chrome, firefox or any other browser installed. You can choose an option once or always.
      - jeffbee 6y ago
        That sounds reasonable. What macOS does is from time to time it uses the notification system to ask you if you would care to switch to Safari, the choices being "now" or "later", there is no choice such as "never".
        cipher_system 6y ago
        Strange, i've used macOS and Chrome for more than ten years now and can't remember ever seeing that.
        jeffbee 6y ago
        https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-osx-try-safari-promotion.html https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-osx-try-safari-promotion....
0pranav 6y ago
A bit off topic bit it reminds me a bit of one of Louis Rossman's recent videos. Apple hampers the ability for independent repair shops to get parts, making the repair shop look degraded compared to Apple.
rado 6y ago
There is no non-Safari on iOS, because Chrome is woefully inefficient. AAPL has no other choice here.
- Oletros 6y ago
  What?
pan69 6y ago
I recently learned that Chrome on iOS is actually Safari in a Chrome shell. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11259152/chrome-ios-is-it-just-a-uiwebview https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11259152/chrome-ios-is-i...

Tade0 6y ago

Also like the thing that pushed the Edge team to switch to Blink.

tln 6y ago
Sorry, how is that related?

spideymans 6y ago

> This sounds like what Apple is doing right now I believe Apple rectified the third party browser performance issue in the 2015 revision of WKWebView https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/new-chrome-for-ios-is-finally-as-fast-and-stable-as-safari/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/new-chrome-for-ios-i...

fzzzy 6y ago
That would allow a company to equal the speed of safari, not surpass it.

w0utert 6y ago

>> This sounds like what Apple is doing right now and everyone keeps defending it when it actual fact it's even worse What is it exactly that Apple is doing that you are referring to (I honestly don’t know)?

deleted 6y ago
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fzzzy 6y ago
Preventing third party jit, thus forcing chrome and firefox and other non-safari browsers to use webkit for their implementations.
MattRix 6y ago
The Safari web browser on mobile runs better than if you ran it embedded in an app. And also you can't run any other browser engine in an app.

jeffbee 6y ago

Apple also constantly prompts me to use their browser instead of the one I like, despite the fact that I've expressed my preference hundreds of times over the years.

sg47 6y ago
Chrome does the same thing on Android. These days I prefer Safari because Google thinks it's ok to show me ads and news items based on my searches for medical issues.
- jeffbee 6y ago
  Android asks you if you want to switch to Chrome when you open Firefox?
  - searchableguy 6y ago
    No. It asks you at first whether you want to use chrome, firefox or any other browser installed. You can choose an option once or always.
    - jeffbee 6y ago
      That sounds reasonable. What macOS does is from time to time it uses the notification system to ask you if you would care to switch to Safari, the choices being "now" or "later", there is no choice such as "never".
      - cipher_system 6y ago
        Strange, i've used macOS and Chrome for more than ten years now and can't remember ever seeing that.
        jeffbee 6y ago
        https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-osx-try-safari-promotion.html https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-osx-try-safari-promotion....

0pranav 6y ago

A bit off topic bit it reminds me a bit of one of Louis Rossman's recent videos. Apple hampers the ability for independent repair shops to get parts, making the repair shop look degraded compared to Apple.

rado 6y ago

There is no non-Safari on iOS, because Chrome is woefully inefficient. AAPL has no other choice here.

Oletros 6y ago
What?

pan69 6y ago

I recently learned that Chrome on iOS is actually Safari in a Chrome shell. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11259152/chrome-ios-is-it-just-a-uiwebview https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11259152/chrome-ios-is-i...