> Environmentalism of the "we must sacrifice" nature is being pushed by idiots on the left and corporates on the right: the left feels it's honest because it's

> Environmentalism of the "we must sacrifice" nature is being pushed by idiots on the left and corporates on the right: the left feels it's honest because it's hard, the right knows that no one will do it I totally agree with your broader point that we shouldn't rely on individual behavior change, but I think you are using a dated perspective of the left and the right. The modern left is actually proposing massive green infrastructure spending in order to shift the country's energy production away from fossil fuels (aka the Green New Deal). The modern right has turned the use of fossil fuels into an identity politics issue, as if you become less American somehow if you use less coal and petroleum to power your life. The corporations are going where their business models and customer constituencies take them, which is why tech has invested heavily in renewables, and fossil fuel companies have balkanized around their products. The automobile industry is in limbo between the two, with a foot in both worlds.