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I hate being in a position to defend Facebook or Instagram, but independent of the size of any of the platforms, Apple is a gatekeeper for them, not the other w

I hate being in a position to defend Facebook or Instagram, but independent of the size of any of the platforms, Apple is a gatekeeper for them, not the other way around.

trollied 6y ago
Are you of the opinion that Apple increasing security and anonymity for the end user is a bad thing?
- nickthemagicman 6y ago
  Is it that simple?
winterismute 6y ago
However, hasn't this happened just because they themselves wanted to be mobile first - mostly due to the fact that it was (and partially still is) a "virgin territory" in which abusing users privacy is easer? Sounds like they should only blame themselves...
- throw0101a 6y ago
  > However, hasn't this happened just because they themselves wanted to be mobile first Not just "mobile first", but they were iPhone-only for the first eighteen months: * https://techland.time.com/2012/04/03/no-joke-instagram-is-finally-available-for-android/ https://techland.time.com/2012/04/03/no-joke-instagram-is-fi... * https://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/tech/mobile/instagram-android/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/tech/mobile/instagram-android...
nobody9999 6y ago
>Apple is a gatekeeper for them, not the other way around. Given that Android has a 75% share[0] of the mobile OS market, that isn't really true. Apple is a gatekeeper for the 23% or so of mobile devices. I think that giving end users control over what data about them is exfiltrated from their devices is a good thing. And assuming that applies to Apple apps as well, it sounds like a win for IOS users. N.B.: I do not currently, nor have I ever owned an Apple device. Even the Apple ][ I built from a kit in high school was a clone and not Apple hardware. [0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/272698/global-market-share-held-by-mobile-operating-systems-since-2009/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/272698/global-market-sha...
- davidwparker 6y ago
  Should be noted that in the United States, iOS has the majority share ~59% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-states-of-america https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-sta...

I hate being in a position to defend Facebook or Instagram, but independent of the size of any of the platforms, Apple is a gatekeeper for them, not the other way around.

trollied 6y ago

Are you of the opinion that Apple increasing security and anonymity for the end user is a bad thing?

nickthemagicman 6y ago
Is it that simple?

winterismute 6y ago

However, hasn't this happened just because they themselves wanted to be mobile first - mostly due to the fact that it was (and partially still is) a "virgin territory" in which abusing users privacy is easer? Sounds like they should only blame themselves...

throw0101a 6y ago
> However, hasn't this happened just because they themselves wanted to be mobile first Not just "mobile first", but they were iPhone-only for the first eighteen months: * https://techland.time.com/2012/04/03/no-joke-instagram-is-finally-available-for-android/ https://techland.time.com/2012/04/03/no-joke-instagram-is-fi... * https://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/tech/mobile/instagram-android/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/tech/mobile/instagram-android...

nobody9999 6y ago

>Apple is a gatekeeper for them, not the other way around. Given that Android has a 75% share[0] of the mobile OS market, that isn't really true. Apple is a gatekeeper for the 23% or so of mobile devices. I think that giving end users control over what data about them is exfiltrated from their devices is a good thing. And assuming that applies to Apple apps as well, it sounds like a win for IOS users. N.B.: I do not currently, nor have I ever owned an Apple device. Even the Apple ][ I built from a kit in high school was a clone and not Apple hardware. [0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/272698/global-market-share-held-by-mobile-operating-systems-since-2009/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/272698/global-market-sha...

davidwparker 6y ago
Should be noted that in the United States, iOS has the majority share ~59% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-states-of-america https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-sta...