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There is considerable scope for universities or any other organisation to ensure that assaults or even unwanted consensual activities are not taking place on th

There is considerable scope for universities or any other organisation to ensure that assaults or even unwanted consensual activities are not taking place on their property. This raises the interesting question - now prevention is more practical and thus enforceable are we likely to see a tightening of behavioural standards and social norms either because the technology allows it or because that's the easiest way to avoid the technology. In either case it seems that a relaxed attitude to social behaviour may be on the way out.

bergstromm466 6y ago
> There is considerable scope for universities or any other organisation to ensure that assaults or even unwanted consensual activities are not taking place on their property. woah i don't fully understand this or the [to you, interesting] question you posed, but I want to say that my post was satire... landlords (even university campuses) have no business meddling in 'unwanted consensual activities' as your naming suggests it is a 'consensual' activity, so there is no problem. being puritanical/prude about sex between young people is another thing. if American universities don't want people having sex in shared dorms with single-beds, then they could create European university style en-suite bedrooms that share a common area + kitchen... honestly American standards and customs scare the fuck out of me sometimes [1] [1] https://qz.com/1743640/us-abortion-politics-are-affecting-global-reproductive-health/ https://qz.com/1743640/us-abortion-politics-are-affecting-gl...
- ISO-morphism 6y ago
  I believe gp was referring to places where sex is already forbidden by a property owner such as classrooms and offices, where if someone walks in on you having sex, you're the weird one because you shouldn't be having sex there, someone could walk in on you, there's no expectation of privacy. It's their property and they're paying you to be there temporarily to provide a service. > landlords (even university campuses) have no business meddling in 'unwanted consensual activities' Agreed, and I think GP would as well. Dorms are different. That's your domicile, the relationship with a university is that of a landlord/tenant. You're paying for a place to sleep and live. There's an expectation of privacy. If you walk into someone's dorm while they're having sex, why the hell are you barging into someone's room? That being said seeing a sex detector hanging from the ceiling would make me sad.
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rbecker 6y ago
If you buy this logic for universities, then surely government has an even greater interest in ensuring assaults aren't taking place. So shall we mandate every private apartment has microphones installed, to catch terrorists and child molesters, and stop the spread of hateful ideologies? Or perhaps we want to limit activities that apartments weren't licensed for, like working from home, babysitting, exercise, more than 3 guests at a time, alcohol consumption... activities forbidden by the rental agreement unless you pay extra. By letting you pay a lower rent if you don't need those activities, landlords can pass the savings on to you, the consumer! You wouldn't want to forbid such practices and force higher prices on renters who don't need those perks, would you? The above is satire for now, but it'll happen if we let it, guaranteed.
- bergstromm466 6y ago
  > The above is satire for now, but it'll happen if we let it, guaranteed. Man am I excited for the Handmaid's Tale America! edit: I'd written a more cynical and satirical comment than this, yet unfortunately dang asked me not to write in the ways i have written before - so i've had to file it in my notes instead. if anyone knows a place or community for 'radical leftists' like me to talk about things like this, please do let me know
  - krapp 6y ago
    I feel like 4chan might be a better fit for you - a brilliant satirical wit such as yours would find a more receptive audience there.
  - eplanit 6y ago
    "if anyone knows a place or community for 'radical leftists' like me to talk about things like this, please do let me know" Twitter!
    - andrepd 6y ago
      If you mean "loud minority pretending to be radical leftists but rather just signalling virtue in a competition of who is more woke", then yes :)
spideymans 6y ago
Why the heck should universities be concerned with the sex lives of their students? Or am I reading your comment incorrectly?
- liability 6y ago
  Sounds like a private/religious university kind of thing; something a Mormon school like BYU might do. As for 'should'.. well it seems obvious to me they shouldn't. But I think they do.

bergstromm466 6y ago

> There is considerable scope for universities or any other organisation to ensure that assaults or even unwanted consensual activities are not taking place on their property. woah i don't fully understand this or the [to you, interesting] question you posed, but I want to say that my post was satire... landlords (even university campuses) have no business meddling in 'unwanted consensual activities' as your naming suggests it is a 'consensual' activity, so there is no problem. being puritanical/prude about sex between young people is another thing. if American universities don't want people having sex in shared dorms with single-beds, then they could create European university style en-suite bedrooms that share a common area + kitchen... honestly American standards and customs scare the fuck out of me sometimes [1] [1] https://qz.com/1743640/us-abortion-politics-are-affecting-global-reproductive-health/ https://qz.com/1743640/us-abortion-politics-are-affecting-gl...

ISO-morphism 6y ago
I believe gp was referring to places where sex is already forbidden by a property owner such as classrooms and offices, where if someone walks in on you having sex, you're the weird one because you shouldn't be having sex there, someone could walk in on you, there's no expectation of privacy. It's their property and they're paying you to be there temporarily to provide a service. > landlords (even university campuses) have no business meddling in 'unwanted consensual activities' Agreed, and I think GP would as well. Dorms are different. That's your domicile, the relationship with a university is that of a landlord/tenant. You're paying for a place to sleep and live. There's an expectation of privacy. If you walk into someone's dorm while they're having sex, why the hell are you barging into someone's room? That being said seeing a sex detector hanging from the ceiling would make me sad.
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rbecker 6y ago

If you buy this logic for universities, then surely government has an even greater interest in ensuring assaults aren't taking place. So shall we mandate every private apartment has microphones installed, to catch terrorists and child molesters, and stop the spread of hateful ideologies? Or perhaps we want to limit activities that apartments weren't licensed for, like working from home, babysitting, exercise, more than 3 guests at a time, alcohol consumption... activities forbidden by the rental agreement unless you pay extra. By letting you pay a lower rent if you don't need those activities, landlords can pass the savings on to you, the consumer! You wouldn't want to forbid such practices and force higher prices on renters who don't need those perks, would you? The above is satire for now, but it'll happen if we let it, guaranteed.

bergstromm466 6y ago
> The above is satire for now, but it'll happen if we let it, guaranteed. Man am I excited for the Handmaid's Tale America! edit: I'd written a more cynical and satirical comment than this, yet unfortunately dang asked me not to write in the ways i have written before - so i've had to file it in my notes instead. if anyone knows a place or community for 'radical leftists' like me to talk about things like this, please do let me know
- krapp 6y ago
  I feel like 4chan might be a better fit for you - a brilliant satirical wit such as yours would find a more receptive audience there.
- eplanit 6y ago
  "if anyone knows a place or community for 'radical leftists' like me to talk about things like this, please do let me know" Twitter!
  - andrepd 6y ago
    If you mean "loud minority pretending to be radical leftists but rather just signalling virtue in a competition of who is more woke", then yes :)

spideymans 6y ago

Why the heck should universities be concerned with the sex lives of their students? Or am I reading your comment incorrectly?

liability 6y ago
Sounds like a private/religious university kind of thing; something a Mormon school like BYU might do. As for 'should'.. well it seems obvious to me they shouldn't. But I think they do.