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I think the scores should appear to a user after (A) that person votes, or (B) 24 hours. Keeping the karma hidden to a user until he or she votes is, IMO, a goo

I think the scores should appear to a user after (A) that person votes, or (B) 24 hours. Keeping the karma hidden to a user until he or she votes is, IMO, a good idea. I'd actually argue for keeping the text color the same at 0 or -1, for the same reason. I don't know that these "contentious exchanges" happen in practice. I remember that a year or two ago, there was the discussion of whether people with high average ratings deserve to have their names appear in orange, and my thought then was that making a fetish of karma averages discourages nested discussions, since root-set comments can end up at 20+, but 6th-level comments, no matter how insightful, are unlikely to get more than a single upvote.

rflrob 16y ago
I'm not even sure there's value to having the score appear after any period of time, though very little disincentive to have it appear after voting. Since HN is, on the whole, a time-wasting avenue for me, I rarely look at things older than a day anyways.
nhangen 16y ago
I think this is perfect. Reveal after a vote so that the vote isn't biased by the points, but you still get to see where your opinion stands with the audience.
- blhack 16y ago
  Why would you care if the community agrees with you? And if you assign value to what the community thinks, why would you want that information displayed for everything, not just stuff you have voted on?
  - nhangen 16y ago
    I didn't say I cared if the community agrees with me, what I said was that it would be nice to know how many people agree with me. Slight distinction, but it matters. Truth be told, I don't care about agreement, but it is interesting to measure general sentiment about topics, and without a point value, it's hard to gauge.
- jamesbkel 16y ago
  By "opinion" I assume you refer to "what I find relevant" rather than "what I agree with"...?
ern 16y ago
I think the scores should appear to a user after (A) that person votes What stops people from voting just to find out the score?
- jules 16y ago
  Perhaps a view votes button would solve this.

rflrob 16y ago

I'm not even sure there's value to having the score appear after any period of time, though very little disincentive to have it appear after voting. Since HN is, on the whole, a time-wasting avenue for me, I rarely look at things older than a day anyways.

nhangen 16y ago

I think this is perfect. Reveal after a vote so that the vote isn't biased by the points, but you still get to see where your opinion stands with the audience.

blhack 16y ago
Why would you care if the community agrees with you? And if you assign value to what the community thinks, why would you want that information displayed for everything, not just stuff you have voted on?
- nhangen 16y ago
  I didn't say I cared if the community agrees with me, what I said was that it would be nice to know how many people agree with me. Slight distinction, but it matters. Truth be told, I don't care about agreement, but it is interesting to measure general sentiment about topics, and without a point value, it's hard to gauge.
jamesbkel 16y ago
By "opinion" I assume you refer to "what I find relevant" rather than "what I agree with"...?

ern 16y ago

I think the scores should appear to a user after (A) that person votes What stops people from voting just to find out the score?

jules 16y ago
Perhaps a view votes button would solve this.