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> immigrants from cultures that DGAF about human life Just out of pure curiosity, what `cultures' are these?

fsckboy 6y ago
it's a set that defines itself, the title is descriptive.
082349872349872 6y ago
The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenape https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenape might say an initial wave of dutch culture, rapidly supplanted, after the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Dutch_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Dutch_Wars, by english culture. (I am guessing adjectival phrases such as dutch uncle, dutch oven, dutch treat, etc. gained currency during that period.)
- heavenlyblue 6y ago
  Are you literally quoting a 18th century event as a reason for bad driving practices in 2020?
  - monsieurbanana 6y ago
    I thought it was a fairly obvious joke, pointing out that there's no such thing as an immigration wave killing people in NYC through electric bikes.
  - 082349872349872 6y ago
    I'm suggesting that people in what is now NYC have probably been kvetching about all the (dangerous!) newcomers since at least the seventeenth. Bonus track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH1fERC_504 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH1fERC_504 (have you heard the one about the chinese waiter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms-9qOXKAkE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms-9qOXKAkE ) We're drawing the line, So keep your noses hidden! We're hanging a sign Says "Visitors Forbidden," And we aren't kidding!
romanoderoma 6y ago
In my experience bikers from Germany, Netherlands and Belgium DGAF about human life.
firebacon 6y ago
Some (maybe only slightly related or relevant) background: In Germany, there is a pretty serious problem with dangerous driving and street racing: In the last ten or so years, there has been long string of downtown races that have killed numerous innocent bystanders in all major German cities. This went so far that recently the German law has been changed and killing somebody while participating in a street race is now treated as "first degree murder". This year, the first conviction under this law was upheld by the German "supreme court". Still, street racing is on the rise. Now, the uncomfortable truth is that the demographics of the offenders skew towards young German men that do not consider themselves to be culturally German or even European. I am not trying to enter a debate on the how much value different cultures place on life. What I am trying to do is to point out that when you consider how the human mind works, it is almost inevitable that these issues are starting to appear to be interlinked. What you have here is a very hot debate on road safety, which is already a topic that is very emotionally charged for a lot of people. Considering that there does actually seem to be a cultural correlation, it is somewhat predictable, if sad, that the public debate around here is now slowly starting to turn into an cultural/ethnic argument. My personal opinion is that we need a massive crackdown on street racing and dangerous driving to prevent this topic from turning into yet another ethnic fault line in Germany.
- warpech 6y ago
  I'm with you... Once in Thailand I was shocked that nobody on mopeds wears a helmet. My conclusion was that the people doesn't value their lives high enough. Sadly, I don't know how to put it differently. I don't know if this is culture, education, or what.

it's a set that defines itself, the title is descriptive.

The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenape https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenape might say an initial wave of dutch culture, rapidly supplanted, after the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Dutch_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Dutch_Wars, by english culture. (I am guessing adjectival phrases such as dutch uncle, dutch oven, dutch treat, etc. gained currency during that period.)

heavenlyblue 6y ago
Are you literally quoting a 18th century event as a reason for bad driving practices in 2020?
- monsieurbanana 6y ago
  I thought it was a fairly obvious joke, pointing out that there's no such thing as an immigration wave killing people in NYC through electric bikes.
- 082349872349872 6y ago
  I'm suggesting that people in what is now NYC have probably been kvetching about all the (dangerous!) newcomers since at least the seventeenth. Bonus track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH1fERC_504 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH1fERC_504 (have you heard the one about the chinese waiter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms-9qOXKAkE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms-9qOXKAkE ) We're drawing the line, So keep your noses hidden! We're hanging a sign Says "Visitors Forbidden," And we aren't kidding!

romanoderoma 6y ago

In my experience bikers from Germany, Netherlands and Belgium DGAF about human life.

firebacon 6y ago

Some (maybe only slightly related or relevant) background: In Germany, there is a pretty serious problem with dangerous driving and street racing: In the last ten or so years, there has been long string of downtown races that have killed numerous innocent bystanders in all major German cities. This went so far that recently the German law has been changed and killing somebody while participating in a street race is now treated as "first degree murder". This year, the first conviction under this law was upheld by the German "supreme court". Still, street racing is on the rise. Now, the uncomfortable truth is that the demographics of the offenders skew towards young German men that do not consider themselves to be culturally German or even European. I am not trying to enter a debate on the how much value different cultures place on life. What I am trying to do is to point out that when you consider how the human mind works, it is almost inevitable that these issues are starting to appear to be interlinked. What you have here is a very hot debate on road safety, which is already a topic that is very emotionally charged for a lot of people. Considering that there does actually seem to be a cultural correlation, it is somewhat predictable, if sad, that the public debate around here is now slowly starting to turn into an cultural/ethnic argument. My personal opinion is that we need a massive crackdown on street racing and dangerous driving to prevent this topic from turning into yet another ethnic fault line in Germany.

warpech 6y ago
I'm with you... Once in Thailand I was shocked that nobody on mopeds wears a helmet. My conclusion was that the people doesn't value their lives high enough. Sadly, I don't know how to put it differently. I don't know if this is culture, education, or what.