> I think most of C++'s additions have avoided these problems in the way Java ran into. I strongly disagree. C++ is a giant, warty bag of cats with wires han

> I think most of C++'s additions have avoided these problems in the way Java ran into. I strongly disagree. C++ is a giant, warty bag of cats with wires hanging out everywhere. It's so bad, and so arbitrary, that many institutions I know of don't permit their teams to program in C++ per se, but rather in a strict house subset of C++. That is a bad sign for a language. This is not the situation Java is in yet. You can hate many of the language features added to Java recently (I certainly do). But it's completely plausible to know all of them, and more or less know all of their implications. This is just impossible in C++, full stop.