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> Doesn't Apple track every app you install, access and run? Do you have a source on the them tracking every app a user runs? Obviously they have to collect ev

by ffpip 6y ago

> Doesn't Apple track every app you install, access and run? Do you have a source on the them tracking every app a user runs? Obviously they have to collect every app I install for updates and subscriptions, but collecting every run might be too much.

cblconfederate 6y ago
Don't they verify executables for this reason? Do they provide info about whether they log this process?
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  I believe iOS handles this process differently. Apps are signed in advance (when the app is approved and published to the Store) and the signatures are only checked locally against a hardcoded signing key. But even on Mac when it comes to notarization, I'm pretty sure the signatures are only checked on first run and then the result of that is cached (partly for performance reasons).
  - sroussey 6y ago
    Same on Mac AppStore.
- ffpip 6y ago
  Why would they verify it everytime you run the app? It already goes through heavy review before it comes onto the app store.
izacus 6y ago
They advertise a whole product which draws all this tracking data as nice graphs to developers: https://developer.apple.com/app-store-connect/analytics/ https://developer.apple.com/app-store-connect/analytics/ It's essentially Google Analytics, just for apps on iOS. Where do you think those "Daily active devices" data comes from?
- anater 6y ago
  Users must opt in though. It’s part of the iOS set up to allow this and you can change it any time
  - lern_too_spel 6y ago
    This setting is opt out, not opt-in. It's unclear if opting out hides the data from Apple or just from the app developers.
    - Nextgrid 6y ago
      It is opt-in now; when setting up iOS for the first time it asks you if you'd like to enable "iPhone analytics" (OS-wide analytics for Apple) and if you accept then it asks you whether you want to share the analytical data with the app developers.
  - Dahoon 6y ago
    It's opt out.
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      No, it’s opt in when you set up your device.
  - deleted 6y ago
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by ffpip 6y ago

cblconfederate 6y ago

Don't they verify executables for this reason? Do they provide info about whether they log this process?

Nextgrid 6y ago
I believe iOS handles this process differently. Apps are signed in advance (when the app is approved and published to the Store) and the signatures are only checked locally against a hardcoded signing key. But even on Mac when it comes to notarization, I'm pretty sure the signatures are only checked on first run and then the result of that is cached (partly for performance reasons).
- sroussey 6y ago
  Same on Mac AppStore.
ffpip 6y ago
Why would they verify it everytime you run the app? It already goes through heavy review before it comes onto the app store.

izacus 6y ago

They advertise a whole product which draws all this tracking data as nice graphs to developers: https://developer.apple.com/app-store-connect/analytics/ https://developer.apple.com/app-store-connect/analytics/ It's essentially Google Analytics, just for apps on iOS. Where do you think those "Daily active devices" data comes from?

anater 6y ago
Users must opt in though. It’s part of the iOS set up to allow this and you can change it any time
- lern_too_spel 6y ago
  This setting is opt out, not opt-in. It's unclear if opting out hides the data from Apple or just from the app developers.
  - Nextgrid 6y ago
    It is opt-in now; when setting up iOS for the first time it asks you if you'd like to enable "iPhone analytics" (OS-wide analytics for Apple) and if you accept then it asks you whether you want to share the analytical data with the app developers.
- Dahoon 6y ago
  It's opt out.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    No, it’s opt in when you set up your device.
- deleted 6y ago
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