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The original paper is always at the bottom of Ars articles. That's one reason I subscribe. Anyway, there seems to be a growing body of evidence contrary to Cho

by ihodes 16y ago

The original paper is always at the bottom of Ars articles. That's one reason I subscribe. Anyway, there seems to be a growing body of evidence contrary to Chomsky's universal grammar–see Dan Everett for some more, e.g. It's interesting to see some more about it. (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature09923.html http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/natu...) EDIT: As pointed out below, you probably can't view this unless you're at a university/college with access to Nature. Sorry about that. Open Access is something you should support if this pisses you off.

mechanical_fish 16y ago
I will say: Putting the link at the bottom of the article automatically makes this better than 90% of the "science journalism" I ever see. Now for problem number two: I don't have thirty-two dollars (!) to spend reading this one paper. Neither do most other people who aren't already in the field. For so long as the primary literature is behind these enormous paywalls, science will continue to consist of a tiny tiny percentage of humanity talking to themselves.
- williamdix 16y ago
  Oh yeah! Working at a university pays off again. I'm glad you raised that point, I was about to start commenting about the text of the article and now I realize that everyone may not have access.
- crocowhile 16y ago
  There you go: http://min.us/imQUkM.pdf http://min.us/imQUkM.pdf
eagleal 16y ago
There is here on HN a user that makes freely available for download papers behind pay wall, but can't find his account name (I thought I had it bookmarked). Edit: Ok found it, http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=freesciencenow http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=freesciencenow
tzs 16y ago
Or check the local Barnes & Noble. The one in my small town at least has "Nature" in the magazine section, at around $20/copy (but of course you can read it while standing in the magazine section...). At first I thought "this can't be the well known peer reviewed journal!?", but it was full of full research papers and sure appeared to be a peer reviewed journal. I don't know if it is the exact same edition as universities get, or some special edition aimed at members of the general public who happen to like reading research papers. It did have a section in front full of general science news and articles, and the part with the papers didn't seem to have a table of contents which struck me as odd. This wouldn't be the first unexpected thing I have found at a "normal" bookstore. At either a small Waldon's or B. Dalton's in a mall I found a copy of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler's tome "Gravitation".

by ihodes 16y ago

mechanical_fish 16y ago

I will say: Putting the link at the bottom of the article automatically makes this better than 90% of the "science journalism" I ever see. Now for problem number two: I don't have thirty-two dollars (!) to spend reading this one paper. Neither do most other people who aren't already in the field. For so long as the primary literature is behind these enormous paywalls, science will continue to consist of a tiny tiny percentage of humanity talking to themselves.

williamdix 16y ago
Oh yeah! Working at a university pays off again. I'm glad you raised that point, I was about to start commenting about the text of the article and now I realize that everyone may not have access.
crocowhile 16y ago
There you go: http://min.us/imQUkM.pdf http://min.us/imQUkM.pdf

eagleal 16y ago

There is here on HN a user that makes freely available for download papers behind pay wall, but can't find his account name (I thought I had it bookmarked). Edit: Ok found it, http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=freesciencenow http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=freesciencenow

tzs 16y ago

Or check the local Barnes & Noble. The one in my small town at least has "Nature" in the magazine section, at around $20/copy (but of course you can read it while standing in the magazine section...). At first I thought "this can't be the well known peer reviewed journal!?", but it was full of full research papers and sure appeared to be a peer reviewed journal. I don't know if it is the exact same edition as universities get, or some special edition aimed at members of the general public who happen to like reading research papers. It did have a section in front full of general science news and articles, and the part with the papers didn't seem to have a table of contents which struck me as odd. This wouldn't be the first unexpected thing I have found at a "normal" bookstore. At either a small Waldon's or B. Dalton's in a mall I found a copy of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler's tome "Gravitation".