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I mention Swiss/glog/gtest/tf because I was always talking about FANG companies, high finance (Renaissance, Jump, etc.) and to a lesser extent some of the unico

I mention Swiss/glog/gtest/tf because I was always talking about FANG companies, high finance (Renaissance, Jump, etc.) and to a lesser extent some of the unicorns. You know, the elite places with boundless budgets and counter-productively high technical hiring bars. Hence “these places”. When it comes to “who hires the best?” it gets a bit fuzzy and anecdotal, but roughly RenTech hires the best. Google hires the best on average in the valley, though FB has made multiple deep cuts through their top quartile with money, which is why so much Facebook stuff seems like “close but not quite” Google stuff. Other massively resourced companies also get quite good people, and there are plenty of little pockets of genius at various universities and think tanks (INRIA comes to mind). I don’t know exactly why a tangent about having F14FastMap or MPMCQueue (and proprietary friends) before the rest of the world has evoked such a strong reaction in a point about C++ making sense at MegaCorp du jour, but calling people who think the cutting-edge internal stuff at the elite companies is a plus for C++ new grads is where I step off this train. I share your frustration with the consolidation of power, money, and talent at a small number of elite institutions to some degree, but you can take it out on someone else.

notacoward 6y ago
> consolidation of power, money, and talent at a small number of elite institutions Stop projecting. I'm not the one who's frustrated here. I benefit from that concentration as much as you did, but thanks for the ad hominem anyway. However, I've also worked at a lot of companies over a long time, both big and small, both inside and outside of the SV or WS bubbles. I didn't burn myself out after one decent stint at one company. Yes, power and money are highly concentrated. Because of that the opportunity to capitalize on talent is also concentrated, but the talent itself isn't. To think otherwise is pure egotism, and it's your strong reaction - to the idea that talent exists elsewhere than you've been, apparently - that got us here.
- benreesman 6y ago
  You’ve taken a comment that adds something to the conversation (a conclusion about build times that you agree with), grabbed a tangential aside about good libraries and spun off a flamey side-thread by going after internal library authors as being delusional, done that god awful cherry-pick “>” citation thing, made repeated appeals to authority about your extensive experience, cited zero examples of OSS libraries to make a substantial counter point (which can be done), ratcheted up the temperature first with NIH, second with disparaging remarks about new grads, and finally with a bizarre contention that I must be angry that I can’t get a job at a place I got a job. All the while I’ve made all my points under my own name, and you’re safe behind an alias. Your profile lists you as a moderator. Why are you throwing fuel on this instead of steering it back to the technology as I’ve repeatedly tried to do by bringing up actual examples of actual code? In spite of a 12 year tenure as a site member I comment pretty rarely because there are only a few topics where my perspective is all that unique, I don’t care about karma points, and the odds that someone is going to pick a fight make it easier to just get back to work and not risk it 99/100 times. You’ve succeeded in sending me back to the orange bar for however long, so mission accomplished: someone is still wrong on the internet but you’ve driven them off their cookie.
  - dang 6y ago
    notacoward is not an HN moderator. I'm the only HN moderator who currently posts moderation comments.
- dang 6y ago
  Personal attacks and flamewar comments like this will get you banned on HN. We've had to ask you about this kind of thing more than once before. If you're involved in a tit-for-tat exchange that's activating to this degree, please just step away for a while. The internet does it to all of us, but the purpose of this site is to practice something different together. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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notacoward 6y ago

> consolidation of power, money, and talent at a small number of elite institutions Stop projecting. I'm not the one who's frustrated here. I benefit from that concentration as much as you did, but thanks for the ad hominem anyway. However, I've also worked at a lot of companies over a long time, both big and small, both inside and outside of the SV or WS bubbles. I didn't burn myself out after one decent stint at one company. Yes, power and money are highly concentrated. Because of that the opportunity to capitalize on talent is also concentrated, but the talent itself isn't. To think otherwise is pure egotism, and it's your strong reaction - to the idea that talent exists elsewhere than you've been, apparently - that got us here.

benreesman 6y ago
You’ve taken a comment that adds something to the conversation (a conclusion about build times that you agree with), grabbed a tangential aside about good libraries and spun off a flamey side-thread by going after internal library authors as being delusional, done that god awful cherry-pick “>” citation thing, made repeated appeals to authority about your extensive experience, cited zero examples of OSS libraries to make a substantial counter point (which can be done), ratcheted up the temperature first with NIH, second with disparaging remarks about new grads, and finally with a bizarre contention that I must be angry that I can’t get a job at a place I got a job. All the while I’ve made all my points under my own name, and you’re safe behind an alias. Your profile lists you as a moderator. Why are you throwing fuel on this instead of steering it back to the technology as I’ve repeatedly tried to do by bringing up actual examples of actual code? In spite of a 12 year tenure as a site member I comment pretty rarely because there are only a few topics where my perspective is all that unique, I don’t care about karma points, and the odds that someone is going to pick a fight make it easier to just get back to work and not risk it 99/100 times. You’ve succeeded in sending me back to the orange bar for however long, so mission accomplished: someone is still wrong on the internet but you’ve driven them off their cookie.
- dang 6y ago
  notacoward is not an HN moderator. I'm the only HN moderator who currently posts moderation comments.
dang 6y ago
Personal attacks and flamewar comments like this will get you banned on HN. We've had to ask you about this kind of thing more than once before. If you're involved in a tit-for-tat exchange that's activating to this degree, please just step away for a while. The internet does it to all of us, but the purpose of this site is to practice something different together. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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