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This is incredible! Uploading all legislation to a repository and declaring it as the authoritative version is the way to go to enable progress. In Turkey, jud
by terminalcommand 6y ago
This is incredible! Uploading all legislation to a repository and declaring it as the authoritative version is the way to go to enable progress.
In Turkey, judges and prosecutors have access to a digital law database, but citizens and lawyers don’t. However, laws continue to be published in an online gazette. Most amendments, decrees etc. are published as low-res images. You cannot search them. The government doesn’t even bother publishing the full amendment text. They only state sentences like: “The second word on the sixteenth paragraph of the law numbered X was amended as Y.”.
To find out about the amendment, you open the legislation, follow the instructions to get the latest version.
There are third party publishers who follow these changes and sell memberships where you can see the latest code. The layman has to wait until the government publishes the text (unofficialy) and cannot do comparisons.
It is a real mess. But the government here doesn’t want people to notice the changes, that’s why they bury these in small print. Public officials know the law, citizens have to work hard to get the latest text.
I had law professors in college, who checked the legislation with printed copies of the state newspaper against the published version, because they were sceptical of the government’s unofficial legislation site. They suspected that the government may have been altering these texts. The constitution only protects the integrity of the text published in the official state newspaper. But as most people don’t have any other source these become the authoritive one.
It’s really sickening. If there were a standardized format for all legislation (including the drafts), we could search easily, make comparisons easily etc.
- jka 6y agoAgreed, it could be much better worldwide. I'm a layperson certainly, but my understanding is that a lot of legal systems were/are intended in principle to be structured so that they are open to the public (in terms of access) so that they gain credibility and support from the communities they serve, and so that injustices can be debated and corrected. Regardless of what tech companies themselves aim to achieve, I think that software engineers on the ground tend to believe that making languages easier to understand, making codebases clearer and simpler, providing better tools to access and subscribe to changes and releases, and automatically spot problems (like the integrity issue you mention) are all beneficial. I believe we'll see more of those types of practices and abilities filter their way into legal systems; it could be disruptive and it shouldn't be done too quickly so as to avoid Chesterton's Fence[1]-type issues, but the upsides are clear and the blockers may largely be related to inertia. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton%27s_fence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton%27s_fence