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It's fascinating to see how certain groups and civilizations like the Vikings end up being acceptable, even venerated in our society despite their horrific beha
by lonelyasacloud 6y ago
It's fascinating to see how certain groups and civilizations like the Vikings end up being acceptable, even venerated in our society despite their horrific behaviour (by current standards at least).
For example:
- Roman empire, slavery, crucifixion, invasions ... where to start, perhaps 400,000 deaths in the Colosseum alone https://darkrome.com/blog/Rome/7-bloody-colosseum-facts https://darkrome.com/blog/Rome/7-bloody-colosseum-facts,
- Celts - slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts#Society https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts#Society, human sacrifice https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/did-the-ancient-celts-practice-human-sacrifice https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/did-the-ancient-c...
- Spartans with their Helot's https://allthatsinteresting.com/krypteia-sparta https://allthatsinteresting.com/krypteia-sparta
- Arab empires https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
- Ottoman's - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary
- Mongol's, up to 40 million deaths https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-genghis-khan https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-abou..., sack of Baghdad https://www.warhistoryonline.com/medieval/the-sack-of-baghdad-in-1258.html https://www.warhistoryonline.com/medieval/the-sack-of-baghda...
Are widely acceptable in our current society.
What is about societies like the Vikings (invaders, human sacrificers and slave traders https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/12/151228-vikings-slaves-thralls-norse-scandinavia-archaeology/ https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/12/151228-vikin...) that means they don't get talked about in the same way that Germany's Nazi regime is? Is it politics? Or just time? But how come some groups statues and iconography are "acceptable" while others are not?
(sorry for the long post that's wandered off topic ;-) )
- eggsmediumrare 6y agoNot sure why you're being downvoted.
- tokai 6y agoIts off topic, long (because of unneeded links, instead of content), and the argument is based on a perceived idea that Vikings are only revered. The nazi mention makes it almost seem like the comment is angling for drama.
- simplicio 6y agoDoesn't seem that mysterious. Nazi atrocities are still in living memory, and victimized people and countries are still around. If you walk around with an "SS" tattoo, those people are (rightly) going to take it as a personal affront. On the other hand, while people might have strong opinions about a "Molon Labe" bumper stick, there isn't anyone with Helot grandparents who raised them on stories about how terrible the Spartans were to their slaves.