5 ms·

Thing is, he damaged himself by choosing to spend nearly a decade in isolation. We haven’t done anything to him other than expect him to submit to due process a

Thing is, he damaged himself by choosing to spend nearly a decade in isolation. We haven’t done anything to him other than expect him to submit to due process as a citizen like any other. That he has driven himself half-mad is indeed tragic, but it’s not societies fault, nor is it sufficient to place him outside the law.

tinus_hn 6y ago
There is no way he would have gotten due process, which is why he went in in the first place.
- mavdi 6y ago
  He would have. The case was straight in the public eyes and he had a strong public sympathy back then. Instead he chose to be a fugitive and get in bed with Trump/Putin duo.
- kgonza 6y ago
  Can you give an example of someone in his position who didn't receive due process?
  - black_puppydog 6y ago
    Yes, Julian Assange for one. Look him up, you seem to be unfamiliar with his case. /s
k1m 6y ago
> Thing is, he damaged himself by choosing to spend nearly a decade in isolation. He always argued that he would not receive fair treatment if he submitted himself to authorities, especially as they would give him no assurance about not handing him over to the US (this is before the US officially started proceedings against him). > We haven't done anything to him other than expect him to submit to due process as a citizen like any other. But the International Bar Association say that he is not getting due process. Which rather confirms his original fears. The article here quotes IBAHRI Co-Chair, Anne Ramberg: "With this extradition trial we are witnessing the serious undermining of due process and the rule of law."
- kgonza 6y ago
  >He always argued that he would not receive... He is not special. He broke the law and he should face consequences like everyone else. Instead, he wants the world to dance to his tune.
sudosysgen 6y ago
Do you think he'd have a better treatment in a US prison? Because I don't know if that's a realistic viewpoint to hold.

tinus_hn 6y ago

There is no way he would have gotten due process, which is why he went in in the first place.

mavdi 6y ago
He would have. The case was straight in the public eyes and he had a strong public sympathy back then. Instead he chose to be a fugitive and get in bed with Trump/Putin duo.
kgonza 6y ago
Can you give an example of someone in his position who didn't receive due process?
- black_puppydog 6y ago
  Yes, Julian Assange for one. Look him up, you seem to be unfamiliar with his case. /s

k1m 6y ago

> Thing is, he damaged himself by choosing to spend nearly a decade in isolation. He always argued that he would not receive fair treatment if he submitted himself to authorities, especially as they would give him no assurance about not handing him over to the US (this is before the US officially started proceedings against him). > We haven't done anything to him other than expect him to submit to due process as a citizen like any other. But the International Bar Association say that he is not getting due process. Which rather confirms his original fears. The article here quotes IBAHRI Co-Chair, Anne Ramberg: "With this extradition trial we are witnessing the serious undermining of due process and the rule of law."

kgonza 6y ago
>He always argued that he would not receive... He is not special. He broke the law and he should face consequences like everyone else. Instead, he wants the world to dance to his tune.

sudosysgen 6y ago

Do you think he'd have a better treatment in a US prison? Because I don't know if that's a realistic viewpoint to hold.