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I love records. There are plenty of reasons why records are great that don't usually get mentioned here. * The big one: There is tons of music out there that i

by Mizza 6y ago

I love records. There are plenty of reasons why records are great that don't usually get mentioned here. * The big one: There is tons of music out there that isn't on streaming services. If you like punk, breakcore, UK dubstep, noise, really anything even a little bit out of the mainstream, or from the past - you can't find the best stuff on any streaming services. If I could only make one point, this would be it. Spotify! Doesn't! Haven't! Everything! You'll never dance around your living room to the good version of This Bike is a Pipebomb's 'Better Off Dead', because you don't have the split 7". * Vinyl is a good value store. If you keep good care of your records - and you have good taste - you'll find that your collection _appreciates_ in value over time, unlike other forms which _depreciate_. Some of the records I picked up in high school are worth over a hundred bucks now! Not that I plan on ever selling them, but it's nice to know I could. * Vinyl is something to do while traveling! It's great going to another country or city and browsing the record shops and finding something you're after, or something funky looking in the $2 bin. Random finds in dollar bins are a bit like Magic: The Gathering cards - usually crap, but occasionally brilliant. Plus, whenever you take it out, you get to remember the trip you got it on. * Sampling. I make hip hop, and samples from vinyls just sound better with that real grit. They just do. Records! Yeah!

Cthulhu_ 6y ago
I have a handful of records in a sturdy box for collection purposes, probably nothing fancy and it's all on Spotify and co as well, but I like having physical copies, and if you get physical copies because of collecting, vinyl is really good. Should get a player sometime, maybe. Anyway all of my vinyl is fairly modern (>2000's). I do scour the secondhand shops sometimes but all the good stuff will have been sniped by the staff (they'll just pay a token amount or just squirrel it away) for their own collection or to be sold on ebay.
vmception 6y ago
> Spotify! Doesn't! Haven't! Everything! You'll never dance around your living room to the good version of This Bike is a Pipebomb's 'Better Off Dead' the secret ingredient is piracy
- mywittyname 6y ago
  Can you add your own music to Spotify in a way that it gets distributed to your other players?
  - vadansky 6y ago
    Yes, I tried it and it's not great. So I basically have Spotify and Plex now and have to switch between the two. Spotify is still great for discovery and radio.
bzb5 6y ago
The answer to your first point is soulseek
- werdnapk 6y ago
  Soulseek is the ultimate source of hard to find music. I'd have some rare things in my wishlist for months before they'd pop up for me to download. That's all I used for music for almost a decade.
  - pcf 6y ago
    Yeah, plus what.cd until it disappeared. I'll just also mention the extremely useful "deemix", but hssh... you didn't hear that from me...
    - crtasm 6y ago
      There were at least two replacements for whatcd founded shortly after they decided to shut down.
      - pessimizer 6y ago
        They're not as good. They're fine, but not as good. Every time the new Oink gets destroyed, the replacement is a little bit worse. I think it's because most long-term users have all the music they want and have lost interest in restocking (or heavily participating in) new trackers. Also, the audiophile number-maxing flac people dominate, driving out the casuals. People who are very invested in hearing the latest music are well-served by the streaming services. Other than the OCD datahoarders, they're not going to be saving the tracker ecosystem, either.
    - sjm 6y ago
      RIP to a real one. Every now and then I think about how amazing what.cd was, a real digital Library of Alexandria for every kind of music. :(
  - Dirlewanger 6y ago
httpsterio 6y ago
> I love records. There are plenty of reasons why records are great that don't usually get mentioned here. > * The big one: There is tons of music out there that isn't on streaming services. If you like punk, breakcore, UK dubstep, noise, really anything even a little bit out of the mainstream, or from the past - you can't find the best stuff on any streaming services. If I could only make one point, this would be it. Spotify! Doesn't! Haven't! Everything! You'll never dance around your living room to the good version of This Bike is a Pipebomb's 'Better Off Dead', because you don't have the split 7". > * Vinyl is a good value store. If you keep good care of your records - and you have good taste - you'll find that your collection _appreciates_ in value over time, unlike other forms which _depreciate_. Some of the records I picked up in high school are worth over a hundred bucks now! Not that I plan on ever selling them, but it's nice to know I could. > * Vinyl is something to do while traveling! It's great going to another country or city and browsing the record shops and finding something you're after, or something funky looking in the $2 bin. Random finds in dollar bins are a bit like Magic: The Gathering cards - usually crap, but occasionally brilliant. Plus, whenever you take it out, you get to remember the trip you got it on. > * Sampling. I make hip hop, and samples from vinyls just sound better with that real grit. They just do. > Records! Yeah! I've bought a few albums with the purpose of flipping them and I've made a 2500% return with those. What you say is correct, soundtracks and smaller runs or limited editions tend to grow in value.
bluGill 6y ago
Don't buy vinyl to make money in the future. You don't know how long the fad will last. I've seen many other collectors markets be strong for years and then die. Buy vinyl because you love it, and don't worry about long term value, if it goes down it just means you can get more for less money. Don't confuse the above with making money now. There is currently a market for vinyl and there are a number of ways you can go into business selling to that market. However this is about flipping your inventory, not investing in it.
- brazzy 6y ago
  This. "it's an investment!" is a horrible way to justify spending more on a collection than you can afford. coughbeaniebabiescough
- pessimizer 6y ago
  > You don't know how long the fad will last. Also, note that if you were like me and bought records because of the music on them, and think digital music is a very recently unimaginable blessing; this is the time to sell. Don't wait until the bottom drops out (like baseball cards in the 90s.) They paid me a fortune for my record collection. My mindset was 20 years old, and I only brought records to sell that I thought were "good" or "rare." The prices paid for even the marginal ones convinced me to go back and fetch the leftovers.

by Mizza 6y ago

Cthulhu_ 6y ago

I have a handful of records in a sturdy box for collection purposes, probably nothing fancy and it's all on Spotify and co as well, but I like having physical copies, and if you get physical copies because of collecting, vinyl is really good. Should get a player sometime, maybe. Anyway all of my vinyl is fairly modern (>2000's). I do scour the secondhand shops sometimes but all the good stuff will have been sniped by the staff (they'll just pay a token amount or just squirrel it away) for their own collection or to be sold on ebay.

vmception 6y ago

> Spotify! Doesn't! Haven't! Everything! You'll never dance around your living room to the good version of This Bike is a Pipebomb's 'Better Off Dead' the secret ingredient is piracy

mywittyname 6y ago
Can you add your own music to Spotify in a way that it gets distributed to your other players?
- vadansky 6y ago
  Yes, I tried it and it's not great. So I basically have Spotify and Plex now and have to switch between the two. Spotify is still great for discovery and radio.

bzb5 6y ago

The answer to your first point is soulseek

werdnapk 6y ago
Soulseek is the ultimate source of hard to find music. I'd have some rare things in my wishlist for months before they'd pop up for me to download. That's all I used for music for almost a decade.
- pcf 6y ago
  Yeah, plus what.cd until it disappeared. I'll just also mention the extremely useful "deemix", but hssh... you didn't hear that from me...
  - crtasm 6y ago
    There were at least two replacements for whatcd founded shortly after they decided to shut down.
    - pessimizer 6y ago
      They're not as good. They're fine, but not as good. Every time the new Oink gets destroyed, the replacement is a little bit worse. I think it's because most long-term users have all the music they want and have lost interest in restocking (or heavily participating in) new trackers. Also, the audiophile number-maxing flac people dominate, driving out the casuals. People who are very invested in hearing the latest music are well-served by the streaming services. Other than the OCD datahoarders, they're not going to be saving the tracker ecosystem, either.
  - sjm 6y ago
    RIP to a real one. Every now and then I think about how amazing what.cd was, a real digital Library of Alexandria for every kind of music. :(
- Dirlewanger 6y ago

httpsterio 6y ago

> I love records. There are plenty of reasons why records are great that don't usually get mentioned here. > * The big one: There is tons of music out there that isn't on streaming services. If you like punk, breakcore, UK dubstep, noise, really anything even a little bit out of the mainstream, or from the past - you can't find the best stuff on any streaming services. If I could only make one point, this would be it. Spotify! Doesn't! Haven't! Everything! You'll never dance around your living room to the good version of This Bike is a Pipebomb's 'Better Off Dead', because you don't have the split 7". > * Vinyl is a good value store. If you keep good care of your records - and you have good taste - you'll find that your collection _appreciates_ in value over time, unlike other forms which _depreciate_. Some of the records I picked up in high school are worth over a hundred bucks now! Not that I plan on ever selling them, but it's nice to know I could. > * Vinyl is something to do while traveling! It's great going to another country or city and browsing the record shops and finding something you're after, or something funky looking in the $2 bin. Random finds in dollar bins are a bit like Magic: The Gathering cards - usually crap, but occasionally brilliant. Plus, whenever you take it out, you get to remember the trip you got it on. > * Sampling. I make hip hop, and samples from vinyls just sound better with that real grit. They just do. > Records! Yeah! I've bought a few albums with the purpose of flipping them and I've made a 2500% return with those. What you say is correct, soundtracks and smaller runs or limited editions tend to grow in value.

bluGill 6y ago

Don't buy vinyl to make money in the future. You don't know how long the fad will last. I've seen many other collectors markets be strong for years and then die. Buy vinyl because you love it, and don't worry about long term value, if it goes down it just means you can get more for less money. Don't confuse the above with making money now. There is currently a market for vinyl and there are a number of ways you can go into business selling to that market. However this is about flipping your inventory, not investing in it.

brazzy 6y ago
This. "it's an investment!" is a horrible way to justify spending more on a collection than you can afford. coughbeaniebabiescough
pessimizer 6y ago
> You don't know how long the fad will last. Also, note that if you were like me and bought records because of the music on them, and think digital music is a very recently unimaginable blessing; this is the time to sell. Don't wait until the bottom drops out (like baseball cards in the 90s.) They paid me a fortune for my record collection. My mindset was 20 years old, and I only brought records to sell that I thought were "good" or "rare." The prices paid for even the marginal ones convinced me to go back and fetch the leftovers.