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>there is no need to transfer IP Provably false. [1] >comply with Chinese law Chinese law requires companies to hand over root access and data, and also effe

by 0xy 6y ago

>there is no need to transfer IP Provably false. [1] >comply with Chinese law Chinese law requires companies to hand over root access and data, and also effectively forbids E2E encryption. This is IP transfer. [2] >The US is simply scared of losing it's advantage in tech to China The US has several tech companies with market caps more than double Tik Tok. >National Security There's evidence Tik Tok has been promoting CCP propaganda. [3] >the average person isn't harmed by TikTok anymore and indeed less so than Facebook Depends if you trust your data with the same government who regularly disappears journalists, I guess. [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/forced-tech-transfers-are-on-the-rise-in-china-european-firms-say-11558344240 https://www.wsj.com/articles/forced-tech-transfers-are-on-th... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Internet_Security_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Internet_Security_Law [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOlu624glKw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOlu624glKw

sudosysgen 6y ago
>Chinese law requires companies to hand over root access and data, and also effectively forbids E2E encryption. This is IP transfer. [2] By that standard the US also requires IP transfer. Have you already forgotten about PRISM? >The US has several tech companies with market caps more than double Tik Tok. Sure, but if China continues in this trajectory then it won't be for long >Depends if you trust your data with the same government who regularly disappears journalists, I guess. Depends if you trust your data with the same government who regularly fabricates evidence as an excuse to go and kill a million or so people every once in a while. Or the one that regularly assassinates or threatens to assassinate activists, I guess. The chance of your own government killing you is at least four or five orders of magnitude higher than that of China killing you, same for most other metrics of harm. Can't say the same if you're a foreigner with the US government, though! That being said, US control of the press is much more sophisticated, so there is really no need to kill any American journalists except in exceptional cases. But don't delude yourself, if it ever came to that there would be no hesitation - look at what the USG did to Fred Hampton of Gary Webb, or what they tried to do with Martin Luther King. >There's evidence Tik Tok has been promoting CCP propaganda. [3] There's a difference between people on TikTok defending China and TikTok conspiring to push Chinese propaganda. There is evidence for the first one, and absolutely no evidence of the latter. There's people who defend China and push propaganda on Facebook and Instagram too, if you go looking for them. And there's also American propaganda on TikTok.

by 0xy 6y ago

sudosysgen 6y ago

>Chinese law requires companies to hand over root access and data, and also effectively forbids E2E encryption. This is IP transfer. [2] By that standard the US also requires IP transfer. Have you already forgotten about PRISM? >The US has several tech companies with market caps more than double Tik Tok. Sure, but if China continues in this trajectory then it won't be for long >Depends if you trust your data with the same government who regularly disappears journalists, I guess. Depends if you trust your data with the same government who regularly fabricates evidence as an excuse to go and kill a million or so people every once in a while. Or the one that regularly assassinates or threatens to assassinate activists, I guess. The chance of your own government killing you is at least four or five orders of magnitude higher than that of China killing you, same for most other metrics of harm. Can't say the same if you're a foreigner with the US government, though! That being said, US control of the press is much more sophisticated, so there is really no need to kill any American journalists except in exceptional cases. But don't delude yourself, if it ever came to that there would be no hesitation - look at what the USG did to Fred Hampton of Gary Webb, or what they tried to do with Martin Luther King. >There's evidence Tik Tok has been promoting CCP propaganda. [3] There's a difference between people on TikTok defending China and TikTok conspiring to push Chinese propaganda. There is evidence for the first one, and absolutely no evidence of the latter. There's people who defend China and push propaganda on Facebook and Instagram too, if you go looking for them. And there's also American propaganda on TikTok.