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I'm more concerned about TLDs like: .ACCENTURE .AIRBUS .AMERICANEXPRESS .AMERICANFAMILY .AVIANCA .BAIDU .BARCLAYCARD .BARCLAYS

I'm more concerned about TLDs like: .ACCENTURE .AIRBUS .AMERICANEXPRESS .AMERICANFAMILY .AVIANCA .BAIDU .BARCLAYCARD .BARCLAYS .BENTLEY .BESTBUY .BLOOMBERG .BNPPARIBAS .BOEHRINGER .BUGATTI .CALVINKLEIN .CAPITALONE .CITI .EPSON .ERICSSON .FERRARI .FUJITSU .GMAIL .GODADDY .HDFC .HDFCBANK .HITACHI .HYATT .HYUNDAI .JAGUAR .JEEP .JPMORGAN .JUNIPER .KERRYHOTELS .KERRYLOGISTICS .KERRYPROPERTIES .LACAIXA .LAMBORGHINI .LANDROVER .LANXESS .LPLFINANCIAL .MASERATI .MATTEL .MCKINSEY .MICROSOFT .MITSUBISHI .NETFLIX .NORTHWESTERNMUTUAL .OLAYANGROUP .PANASONIC .PRAMERICA .SAMSUNG .SCHAEFFLER .SCJOHNSON .SONY .STCGROUP .SUZUKI .SWATCH .TIFFANY .TOSHIBA .VIRGIN .VOLKSWAGEN It's disgusting.

AmericanChopper 6y ago
If those TLDs were actually useful, then the domain name system would be in much better shape than it actually is. In reality, you have .gov for government, .com for business, .org for organisations who don’t care how much traffic they get, local country TLDs for if you operate a service for one country only, and tons and tons of garbage. com is the only TLD that has any value for international commerce. It doesn’t matter that .netflix exists, because it will never be used for anything productive. The problem is that you can only ever count on a person knowing .com and their local TLD. Everything else either won’t register with people as being an actual domain name, or will look like a scam to most people. The internet is locked into this system, and it’s one that cannot possibly scale. The explosion in new TLDs is an attempt to address that. But we don’t need to worry about how disgusting it is, because it’s an attempt that has failed. I would suggest two issues that are more concerning is that there is nothing that seems to be a realistic alternative or solution, and that the way this problem has played out has diminished the actual usefulness of domain names, with that gap being filled by the google search engine.
- kohtatsu 6y ago
  There were plans on potentially allowing https://netflix/ https://netflix/ I can't recall the technical term for it though, and my search engine couldn't help me find it within a few minutes.
  - 0x76 6y ago
    It appears to be called dotless domains: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2013-08-30-en https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2013-08-30-en
  - cmwelsh 6y ago
    How could it be stopped if the company owns the TLD? Do you mean bureaucratically (inside Netflix) allowing it?
    - brewmarche 6y ago
      A/AAAA records on gTLD level are not allowed by ICANN. ccTLDs may have these records (probably just an oversight from the past) and some do (http://ai http://ai. for example)
      - arjarj 6y ago
        Maybe not as much as an oversight but (as I understood) mostly due the fact that most ccTLD registries predate the existence of ICANN. As the ccTLDs as such weren't issued by ICANN, there's no ICANN policy that would apply to them for stuff like this.
        sleevi 6y ago
        Not oversight nor historical: political. Countries view ccTLDs as their sovereign property and territory on the Internet, and refuse to be (involuntarily) bound to any rules or requirements as a matter of sovereignty. It’s a huge source of geopolitical conflict within the IANA/ICANN split (and with DNS in general). A number of countries have _voluntarily_ agreed to follow ICANN’s principles for good management and interoperability [1], but jurisdictions gonna jurisdict I guess. [1] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/cctlds/cctlds-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/cctlds/cctlds-en
- dgellow 6y ago
  > In reality, you have .gov for government Only for the US government.
- EE84M3i 6y ago
  >.org for organisations who don’t care how much traffic they get Why is this?
  - AmericanChopper 6y ago
    It’s supposed to be the non-profit TLD. While I’m sure plenty of them need to market themselves, org domains tend to be more focused on providing services to existing users than marketing services to new users. Things like schools, churches, open source projects...
duskwuff 6y ago
The good news is that a lot of those have started shutting down. For example, .SYMANTEC was terminated earlier this year.
- cj 6y ago
  For anyone else interested in terminating TLDs: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registry-agreement-termination-2015-10-09-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registry-agreemen... JC Penny, Intel, Esurance, Vistaprint among companies terminating their TLDs.
nooyurrsdey 6y ago
This is such a gross misuse of power honestly.
mcint 6y ago
It's cute. It's nice that they make them so easy to block!

AmericanChopper 6y ago

If those TLDs were actually useful, then the domain name system would be in much better shape than it actually is. In reality, you have .gov for government, .com for business, .org for organisations who don’t care how much traffic they get, local country TLDs for if you operate a service for one country only, and tons and tons of garbage. com is the only TLD that has any value for international commerce. It doesn’t matter that .netflix exists, because it will never be used for anything productive. The problem is that you can only ever count on a person knowing .com and their local TLD. Everything else either won’t register with people as being an actual domain name, or will look like a scam to most people. The internet is locked into this system, and it’s one that cannot possibly scale. The explosion in new TLDs is an attempt to address that. But we don’t need to worry about how disgusting it is, because it’s an attempt that has failed. I would suggest two issues that are more concerning is that there is nothing that seems to be a realistic alternative or solution, and that the way this problem has played out has diminished the actual usefulness of domain names, with that gap being filled by the google search engine.

kohtatsu 6y ago
There were plans on potentially allowing https://netflix/ https://netflix/ I can't recall the technical term for it though, and my search engine couldn't help me find it within a few minutes.
- 0x76 6y ago
  It appears to be called dotless domains: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2013-08-30-en https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2013-08-30-en
- cmwelsh 6y ago
  How could it be stopped if the company owns the TLD? Do you mean bureaucratically (inside Netflix) allowing it?
  - brewmarche 6y ago
    A/AAAA records on gTLD level are not allowed by ICANN. ccTLDs may have these records (probably just an oversight from the past) and some do (http://ai http://ai. for example)
    - arjarj 6y ago
      Maybe not as much as an oversight but (as I understood) mostly due the fact that most ccTLD registries predate the existence of ICANN. As the ccTLDs as such weren't issued by ICANN, there's no ICANN policy that would apply to them for stuff like this.
      - sleevi 6y ago
        Not oversight nor historical: political. Countries view ccTLDs as their sovereign property and territory on the Internet, and refuse to be (involuntarily) bound to any rules or requirements as a matter of sovereignty. It’s a huge source of geopolitical conflict within the IANA/ICANN split (and with DNS in general). A number of countries have _voluntarily_ agreed to follow ICANN’s principles for good management and interoperability [1], but jurisdictions gonna jurisdict I guess. [1] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/cctlds/cctlds-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/cctlds/cctlds-en
dgellow 6y ago
> In reality, you have .gov for government Only for the US government.
EE84M3i 6y ago
>.org for organisations who don’t care how much traffic they get Why is this?
- AmericanChopper 6y ago
  It’s supposed to be the non-profit TLD. While I’m sure plenty of them need to market themselves, org domains tend to be more focused on providing services to existing users than marketing services to new users. Things like schools, churches, open source projects...

duskwuff 6y ago

The good news is that a lot of those have started shutting down. For example, .SYMANTEC was terminated earlier this year.

cj 6y ago
For anyone else interested in terminating TLDs: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registry-agreement-termination-2015-10-09-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registry-agreemen... JC Penny, Intel, Esurance, Vistaprint among companies terminating their TLDs.

nooyurrsdey 6y ago

This is such a gross misuse of power honestly.

mcint 6y ago

It's cute. It's nice that they make them so easy to block!