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Probably worth adjusting the title -- air quality is not just a measure of pollution. In this case, both SF and Portland are filled (unfortunately) with wildfir

Probably worth adjusting the title -- air quality is not just a measure of pollution. In this case, both SF and Portland are filled (unfortunately) with wildfire smoke, rather than a man-made pollutant...

bamboozled 6y ago
Why do you want the title adjusted? It’s sadly just a fact that the air pollution is bad in SF today. If bad air pollution is caused by factories do people in those towns come and make similar arguments?
- 30minAdayHN 6y ago
  because the title is no longer correct? it's no longer the worst. not denying that pollution is bad in SF.
  - bamboozled 6y ago
    That’s just semantics, it was the worst very recently?
- happytoexplain 6y ago
  I assumed the title meant man-made pollutants. That's colloquially what pollution refers to. It's pretty clearly misleading.
dutch3000 6y ago
the fire was man-made
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0x2a 6y ago
Is smoke not considered a pollutant? The list is just a ranking of current PM2.5 AQI levels.
- pstrateman 6y ago
  Generally when people are talking about pollutants they're talking about man made pollutants.
  - bamboozled 6y ago
    As climate change was a key driver of these fires and those in Australia earlier this year, then I feel like it's perfectly reasonable to say this is man made pollution. Coal and oil are also a "natural" fuels, but we burn those too and we say it's man made pollution.
  - 0x2a 6y ago
    WHO includes smoke in their overview page on air pollution as does Wikipedia. - https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_pollution#Sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_pollution#Sources
    - pstrateman 6y ago
      Most smoke that is air pollution is caused by farmers burning crops. You can include smoke in air pollution numbers, while not considering wild fires to be pollution.
  - hnlurker 6y ago
    "Person-"made if you please. Lest we forget a major part of this year's season was induced at a "gender reveal party".

bamboozled 6y ago

Why do you want the title adjusted? It’s sadly just a fact that the air pollution is bad in SF today. If bad air pollution is caused by factories do people in those towns come and make similar arguments?

30minAdayHN 6y ago
because the title is no longer correct? it's no longer the worst. not denying that pollution is bad in SF.
- bamboozled 6y ago
  That’s just semantics, it was the worst very recently?
happytoexplain 6y ago
I assumed the title meant man-made pollutants. That's colloquially what pollution refers to. It's pretty clearly misleading.

dutch3000 6y ago

the fire was man-made

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0x2a 6y ago

Is smoke not considered a pollutant? The list is just a ranking of current PM2.5 AQI levels.

pstrateman 6y ago
Generally when people are talking about pollutants they're talking about man made pollutants.
- bamboozled 6y ago
  As climate change was a key driver of these fires and those in Australia earlier this year, then I feel like it's perfectly reasonable to say this is man made pollution. Coal and oil are also a "natural" fuels, but we burn those too and we say it's man made pollution.
- 0x2a 6y ago
  WHO includes smoke in their overview page on air pollution as does Wikipedia. - https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_pollution#Sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_pollution#Sources
  - pstrateman 6y ago
    Most smoke that is air pollution is caused by farmers burning crops. You can include smoke in air pollution numbers, while not considering wild fires to be pollution.
- hnlurker 6y ago
  "Person-"made if you please. Lest we forget a major part of this year's season was induced at a "gender reveal party".