> This is so completely wrong I can't believe I'm responding to it. And yet you provide no logical refutation. > We are not past carrying capacity. Because..

> This is so completely wrong I can't believe I'm responding to it. And yet you provide no logical refutation. > We are not past carrying capacity. Because... you say so? > Population control is some ecofascist bullshit. Because... you say so? "Fascist" doesn't mean "someone told me what to do." Not everything you don't like is "fascist". The environmental movement even at its worse doesn't encourage nationalism, or venerate the military or industry, promote sexism, have an obsession with national security. - it simply has zero connection to fascism. --- Population increases exponentially, and individual consumption increases exponentially. No one wants to stop having kids. No one wants to stop consumption. No one wants people to tell them what to do. So how is society going to survive? The answer: it won't. The exponential growth will never stop until it all collapses. People will scream "fascism" at any attempt to stop any of this exponential growth... and we will devastate the ecosystem for all time to come.