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> TikTok removed those 9 minutes, so it feels very refreshing in that respect. There's no incentive to create filler - just the opposite. It's to a point that

> TikTok removed those 9 minutes, so it feels very refreshing in that respect. There's no incentive to create filler - just the opposite. It's to a point that I skip any TikTok video that starts like “I was in the forest and found this mushroom. Did you know that this kind of mushroom can be used to... ”. I skip it as soon as I hear “I was in the“ (that and the usual tone that comes with it). I don't care. Show me directly what you are doing with the mushroom.

dirtyid 6y ago
Yeah I wish TikTok has variable speed / fast forward option. Another factor for ML to train and automatically speed up to the juicy bits. There's a lot of room to waste even in 1 minute formats. Though TikTok itself is mostly time wasting and this remark is more an indictment of my attention span.
- novok 6y ago
  Is it possible to scrub videos / skip around in tiktok? I've tried googling it but to no avail.
  - johnchristopher 6y ago
    Pretty sure you can't.
wenc 6y ago
Most people are familiar the standard narrative arc structure (which makes for compelling storytelling): normalcy -> conflict -> (rising action to) climax -> resolution. In flash fiction (i.e. very short fiction), the same elements exist, but due to brevity constraints, it starts the story in the middle, i.e. the point of conflict or climax, and then resolves the other parts along the way. I think creators who understand how to exploit this structure could potentially make some really compelling short videos. Example: "For sale: baby shoes, never worn."
ZephyrBlu 6y ago
Is reinforcing that behaviour not worrying to you? Being able to get consistent, instant stimulation from doing effectively nothing seems dangerous to me. We're training ourselves to not be able to focus on anything.
- johnchristopher 6y ago
  I don't really think so (at least regarding my tiktok usage) Being thrown right into the mushroom thing, into the action, forces me to keep focus and attention. The pseudo-introduction is just dulling my mind while not bringing anything of consistence. I had some tiktoks that started like "So I read something incredible the other day and I just had to try it. I am gonna show you what happened when I decided to eat an orange under the shower". Don't care. Starts with you eating the orange. As another sibling commentator wrote it's a different narrative structure. > Being able to get consistent, instant stimulation from doing effectively nothing seems dangerous to me. The same could be said from books but I get what you mean. I still read books, so I guess I am okay (it could be worse !). edit: to be fair, I have very low tolerance and patience for people who beats around the bush :/. On the other hand, when walking outside I can stop and look around me for 2 or 3 minutes every 100 meters because there's always some piece of architecture or natural landscape to look at.

dirtyid 6y ago

Yeah I wish TikTok has variable speed / fast forward option. Another factor for ML to train and automatically speed up to the juicy bits. There's a lot of room to waste even in 1 minute formats. Though TikTok itself is mostly time wasting and this remark is more an indictment of my attention span.

novok 6y ago
Is it possible to scrub videos / skip around in tiktok? I've tried googling it but to no avail.
- johnchristopher 6y ago
  Pretty sure you can't.

wenc 6y ago

Most people are familiar the standard narrative arc structure (which makes for compelling storytelling): normalcy -> conflict -> (rising action to) climax -> resolution. In flash fiction (i.e. very short fiction), the same elements exist, but due to brevity constraints, it starts the story in the middle, i.e. the point of conflict or climax, and then resolves the other parts along the way. I think creators who understand how to exploit this structure could potentially make some really compelling short videos. Example: "For sale: baby shoes, never worn."

ZephyrBlu 6y ago

Is reinforcing that behaviour not worrying to you? Being able to get consistent, instant stimulation from doing effectively nothing seems dangerous to me. We're training ourselves to not be able to focus on anything.

johnchristopher 6y ago
I don't really think so (at least regarding my tiktok usage) Being thrown right into the mushroom thing, into the action, forces me to keep focus and attention. The pseudo-introduction is just dulling my mind while not bringing anything of consistence. I had some tiktoks that started like "So I read something incredible the other day and I just had to try it. I am gonna show you what happened when I decided to eat an orange under the shower". Don't care. Starts with you eating the orange. As another sibling commentator wrote it's a different narrative structure. > Being able to get consistent, instant stimulation from doing effectively nothing seems dangerous to me. The same could be said from books but I get what you mean. I still read books, so I guess I am okay (it could be worse !). edit: to be fair, I have very low tolerance and patience for people who beats around the bush :/. On the other hand, when walking outside I can stop and look around me for 2 or 3 minutes every 100 meters because there's always some piece of architecture or natural landscape to look at.