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>So you're saying articles aren't allowed to Nope, I said nothing of what is allowed, and the majority of reports like this will never contain useful statistic
by ve55 6y ago
>So you're saying articles aren't allowed to
Nope, I said nothing of what is allowed, and the majority of reports like this will never contain useful statistics regardless. I just said it's not helpful to consumers, because it doesn't actually help them make a better decision when you don't know if the brand is more or less safe than the alternatives.
They could easily write an article about a huge problem someone had with product X. Then consumers instead buy product Y, which could have a higher rate of problems, and the article has done harm instead of good. I can't make a claim about this article, but given they're just written for clicks, it's not like they have the consumer's interests in mind either way.
- Someone1234 6y ago> I just said it's not helpful to consumers, because it doesn't actually help them make a better decision when you don't know if the brand is more or less safe than the alternatives. I agree. But I am confused why this lack of statistics is the journalist's fault instead of either the manufacturer who has is sitting on the information, or lack of regulatory rigor that could force public disclosure. You haven't proposed how the journalist gets this proprietary information? Only that they should sit down and be quiet until they have it somehow. If your point is that all manufacturers should disclose, so we can compare/contrast, I agree entirely. But it comes across more like you think journalists shouldn't report on problems if the people they're reporting on aren't cooperating vis-a-vis full disclosure. Which is tantamount to the end of investigative journalism.
- ve55 6y agoThe journalist definitely cannot access the information in the detail we'd want them to, that's true. My issue is more with their phrasing, because never would an article provide basic nuance like "This problem might not be common, and we don't know about how common it is in other products, these are just some randomly-selected cases we have found that happened in the past few years". I think even with proper disclosures, we wouldn't necessarily be getting useful articles, but perhaps it'd at least help by enabling them to be more easily written.
- Bedon292 6y agoThey did look at a similar product from another manufacturer and compare the rate of safety concerns in reviews as a part of the article, but it was a tiny part. I would have liked to see a full table of: Amazon Product vs Multiple Similar Products though.