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Wait what? “I also stopped worrying about COVID and wearing masks and keeping social distance. If humans are weak and die from a begnin virus then it's part of

Wait what? “I also stopped worrying about COVID and wearing masks and keeping social distance. If humans are weak and die from a begnin virus then it's part of the circle of life. Keeping everyone alive through unsustainable measures only harms our planet due to over population and further exploitation.” Benign?

ajkdhcb2 6y ago
Yes, humans in previous generations wouldn't even bat an eyelid at the death rates. it wasn't long ago that people used to willingly go on boat journeys even though 10% of the passengers would typically die on the way
- devit 6y ago
  > on boat journeys even though 10% of the passengers would typically die on the way Source? Seems highly implausible (in general).
  - dredmorbius 6y ago
    The "middle passage" portion of the slave trade saw ~15% mortality, though that would have been high for non-slave passenger travel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Passage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Passage Deaths at sea definitely occurred. Credible accurate records don't seem to be available however, as this article's abstract notes: Farley Grubb, "Morbidity and Mortality on the North Atlantic Passage: Eighteenth-Century German Immigration" (1987). https://www.jstor.org/stable/204611 https://www.jstor.org/stable/204611
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
    Yeah, the only kind of boat where that was probably true was the kind where the majority of "passengers" definitely weren't going willingly.
  - inglor_cz 6y ago
    "Coffin ships" that carried the Irish fleeing the potato famine to America were notorious for their death rate and generally bad conditions. Of course, this was an already weakened population of passengers.
tremon 6y ago
COVID-19 really is a benign virus, as far a viruses go. I don't agree with the rest of that statement, but its effects on people infected are absolutely mild when compared to some other viruses: Polio, HIV and Ebola have much worse effects. Other viruses that we control for with vaccination regularly have much more severe long-term effects than we now know from COVID, like causing birth defects (Rubella), deafness (Mumps), immunocompromization (Measles) or cancer (HPV).

ajkdhcb2 6y ago

Yes, humans in previous generations wouldn't even bat an eyelid at the death rates. it wasn't long ago that people used to willingly go on boat journeys even though 10% of the passengers would typically die on the way

devit 6y ago
> on boat journeys even though 10% of the passengers would typically die on the way Source? Seems highly implausible (in general).
- dredmorbius 6y ago
  The "middle passage" portion of the slave trade saw ~15% mortality, though that would have been high for non-slave passenger travel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Passage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Passage Deaths at sea definitely occurred. Credible accurate records don't seem to be available however, as this article's abstract notes: Farley Grubb, "Morbidity and Mortality on the North Atlantic Passage: Eighteenth-Century German Immigration" (1987). https://www.jstor.org/stable/204611 https://www.jstor.org/stable/204611
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
  Yeah, the only kind of boat where that was probably true was the kind where the majority of "passengers" definitely weren't going willingly.
- inglor_cz 6y ago
  "Coffin ships" that carried the Irish fleeing the potato famine to America were notorious for their death rate and generally bad conditions. Of course, this was an already weakened population of passengers.

tremon 6y ago

COVID-19 really is a benign virus, as far a viruses go. I don't agree with the rest of that statement, but its effects on people infected are absolutely mild when compared to some other viruses: Polio, HIV and Ebola have much worse effects. Other viruses that we control for with vaccination regularly have much more severe long-term effects than we now know from COVID, like causing birth defects (Rubella), deafness (Mumps), immunocompromization (Measles) or cancer (HPV).