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Odd characterizations. "At this point he was grinning very strangely indeed, looking up at the judge, leaning back with one arm wide across his chair back, in

Odd characterizations. "At this point he was grinning very strangely indeed, looking up at the judge, leaning back with one arm wide across his chair back, in some sort of peculiar alpha male gesture." Similar to a roald dahl book.

nmeofthestate 6y ago
Murray is a 'colourful character'. He thinks the Skripal poisoning was a false flag executed by the UK government. He produced an string of soon-debunked conspiracy theories about it, but has stuck with it nonetheless.
- nmeofthestate 6y ago
  And now, the Navalny poisoning was a US/Saudi false flag. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/09/novichok-navalny-nordstream-nonsense/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/09/novichok-nav...
  - Loq 6y ago
    The article you cite does not claim that the Navalny poisoning was a US/Saudi false flag. On the contrary, Murry states: "I should state that I have no difficulty at all with the notion that a powerful oligarch or an organ of the Russian state may have tried to assassinate Navalny". The article states that "[T]he US and Saudi Arabia have every reason to instigate a split between Germany and Russia at this time." The US has gone out of the way to prevent the NordStream 2 pipeline, and directly after Navalny was flown to Germany, several high-ranking German politicians (including Merkel), have began publicly to question whether NordStream 2 should be reconsidered, in the light of Navalny, see [1]. May I gently request that you exercise more care when representing Murray's views? Please reconsider the HN guidelines for comments [2], reproduced here for your convenience: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54070046 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54070046 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - croon 6y ago
      https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JAQing%20off https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JAQing%20off
- Loq 6y ago
  Murray did not state that Skripal was a false-flag by the UK government. He did ask several questions about the nature of the official UK government's explanation which you find at [1]. Can you point me towards credible answers to some / all the questions raised in [1] please? [1] https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/03/pure-ten-points-i-just-cant-believe-about-the-official-skripal-narrative/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/03/pure-ten-poi...
  - mhh__ 6y ago
    > I had never claimed the poisoning, if any, was not carried out by Russians, only that there were many other possibilities if any being the important part. My mind is open to the point that my brain is on the desk? I don't doubt for one second that the intelligence services have cleaned up the story a little but it just looks like conjecture e.g. Craig Murray knows nothing about the roof of the house. His doubts as to their identities look really convenient, given that "someone" tried to give him DNC emails in the past. Edit: here is a bellingcat vs. murray catfight over the identities of the Russians https://mobile.twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/1047597999105462272?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/1047597999105...
- himinlomax 6y ago
  Did he? Until you provide a credible quote to that effect, I'm going to assume you're lying.

nmeofthestate 6y ago

Murray is a 'colourful character'. He thinks the Skripal poisoning was a false flag executed by the UK government. He produced an string of soon-debunked conspiracy theories about it, but has stuck with it nonetheless.

nmeofthestate 6y ago
And now, the Navalny poisoning was a US/Saudi false flag. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/09/novichok-navalny-nordstream-nonsense/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/09/novichok-nav...
- Loq 6y ago
  The article you cite does not claim that the Navalny poisoning was a US/Saudi false flag. On the contrary, Murry states: "I should state that I have no difficulty at all with the notion that a powerful oligarch or an organ of the Russian state may have tried to assassinate Navalny". The article states that "[T]he US and Saudi Arabia have every reason to instigate a split between Germany and Russia at this time." The US has gone out of the way to prevent the NordStream 2 pipeline, and directly after Navalny was flown to Germany, several high-ranking German politicians (including Merkel), have began publicly to question whether NordStream 2 should be reconsidered, in the light of Navalny, see [1]. May I gently request that you exercise more care when representing Murray's views? Please reconsider the HN guidelines for comments [2], reproduced here for your convenience: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54070046 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54070046 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - croon 6y ago
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JAQing%20off https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JAQing%20off
Loq 6y ago
Murray did not state that Skripal was a false-flag by the UK government. He did ask several questions about the nature of the official UK government's explanation which you find at [1]. Can you point me towards credible answers to some / all the questions raised in [1] please? [1] https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/03/pure-ten-points-i-just-cant-believe-about-the-official-skripal-narrative/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/03/pure-ten-poi...
- mhh__ 6y ago
  > I had never claimed the poisoning, if any, was not carried out by Russians, only that there were many other possibilities if any being the important part. My mind is open to the point that my brain is on the desk? I don't doubt for one second that the intelligence services have cleaned up the story a little but it just looks like conjecture e.g. Craig Murray knows nothing about the roof of the house. His doubts as to their identities look really convenient, given that "someone" tried to give him DNC emails in the past. Edit: here is a bellingcat vs. murray catfight over the identities of the Russians https://mobile.twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/1047597999105462272?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/1047597999105...
himinlomax 6y ago
Did he? Until you provide a credible quote to that effect, I'm going to assume you're lying.