whoa there by normies I meant people outside of the hackernews crowd, and while I agree with Linus on Apple's hardware being way sturdier back in the day this w

whoa there by normies I meant people outside of the hackernews crowd, and while I agree with Linus on Apple's hardware being way sturdier back in the day this was a fleeting era for apple. He does run linux on the macbook so my point was just that current apple is not something he stands by nor would buy for status/reliability reasons as Thinkpads and many other durable machines now exist. The new macOS Big Sur is very importantly focused on "the average intellect user" that ends up on iOS and iPad and trying to have the same system of permission popups and touch friendly UI's as well as restrictions to application runtimes going as extreme as break many devtools. While there will be fixes one day for all this and likely a second golden age for apple, unless you are stuck video editing with final cut and your workflow does not allow you to change OS theres few things left for the "era of pro users that got mac for work" I'm still likely to buy the arm macs they should be releasing here soon cuz I do want to be on the front lines of the demise of Intel and I already have a Surface Pro X but the market of american programmers with macbooks is fading and fast, hopefully for good, as iOS development continues to move away from being MacOS exclusive.